Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

Drop in outside temperature, transmission now feels a lot worse... Really?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 13, 2016 | 06:44 AM
  #1  
Kreeker's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,370
Likes: 10
From: ny
Drop in outside temperature, transmission now feels a lot worse... Really?

It's gotten colder over the past few days and the temperature has dropped in to the 60s/70s. It was 64 degrees on my way to work today.

The transmission never felt great, but now it feels horrible. It's more noticeable before the transmission has had time to warm up, but even when it's warmed up it still feels worse than it was when the temps outside were in the 80s and 90s. Now downshifting into third I'm getting a slight grind which did not happen when the outside temperatures were warmer. Every shift feels like crap.

Is it really possible that this small of a outside temperature change could affect the transmission this much?

Do I need to adjust my clutch as the outside temperature changes?

I was getting used to the bad transmission, but now this is just unbearable.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2016 | 06:56 AM
  #2  
kyoo's Avatar
Evolved Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (29)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 10,835
Likes: 283
From: US
what fluid? where does your clutch engage?
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2016 | 10:27 AM
  #3  
Kreeker's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,370
Likes: 10
From: ny
Originally Posted by kyoo
what fluid? where does your clutch engage?
Changed back to diaqueen at 44k miles. Now at around 49k.

I want to say above halfway? I'm not really good at measuring that though...

Should I try increasing the clutch throw (turn the adjuster clockwise) slightly?
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2016 | 10:29 AM
  #4  
kyoo's Avatar
Evolved Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (29)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 10,835
Likes: 283
From: US
I'd start with adjusting the clutch to engage higher (near stock, which is like up at the top) and maybe red line gear oil - idk about diaqueen and amsoil was never good for feel
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2016 | 10:31 AM
  #5  
josh_evo9's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 177
Likes: 10
From: Winston Salem
What exactly do you mean when you say bad transmission? Is your clutch dragging? My clutch was dragging for a good 7 months but the car was definitely drivable. Then one day it just got real bad and started grinding gears out of no where. But alot of people on this forum seem to have experienced alot of different "feels" from different trans fluids. Doubt a fluid would make that significant of a difference though, but it may.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2016 | 10:44 AM
  #6  
Kreeker's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,370
Likes: 10
From: ny
Originally Posted by kyoo
I'd start with adjusting the clutch to engage higher (near stock, which is like up at the top) and maybe red line gear oil - idk about diaqueen and amsoil was never good for feel
I was running the redline cocktail and I didn't like it at all. The diaqueen actually feels better to me.

Originally Posted by josh_evo9
What exactly do you mean when you say bad transmission? Is your clutch dragging? My clutch was dragging for a good 7 months but the car was definitely drivable. Then one day it just got real bad and started grinding gears out of no where. But alot of people on this forum seem to have experienced alot of different "feels" from different trans fluids. Doubt a fluid would make that significant of a difference though, but it may.
You know I've never been able to determine if my clutch is actually dragging. I don't have evoscan and I don't have a cable so I can't turn off my launch control to try the Jack's transmission test.

Basically what it feels like is a slight resistance to go into gear, as well as the very faint grind when downshifting into third..

I changed out my underhood and shifter bushings a while ago to WORKS and also wonder if they could be making it worse.


The thing is the transmission never felt great (third gear: either shift at very high RPM or shift extra slow into third), but it's very strange that when the temperatures outside dropped that it got much worse.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2016 | 10:45 AM
  #7  
LetsGetThisDone's Avatar
EvoM Guru
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 15,973
Likes: 1,629
From: Las Vegas
My trans is always a bit more notchy when it gets cold out.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2016 | 10:58 AM
  #8  
josh_evo9's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 177
Likes: 10
From: Winston Salem
Originally Posted by Kreeker
I was running the redline cocktail and I didn't like it at all. The diaqueen actually feels better to me.



You know I've never been able to determine if my clutch is actually dragging. I don't have evoscan and I don't have a cable so I can't turn off my launch control to try the Jack's transmission test.

Basically what it feels like is a slight resistance to go into gear, as well as the very faint grind when downshifting into third..

I changed out my underhood and shifter bushings a while ago to WORKS and also wonder if they could be making it worse.


The thing is the transmission never felt great (third gear: either shift at very high RPM or shift extra slow into third), but it's very strange that when the temperatures outside dropped that it got much worse.
With the temp dropping, it will feel different due to viscosity changes. My car had the same issue, resistance going into first and reverse. Not too bad, although it would creep and even lightly lurch here and there. Always shifted fine once moving though. I just don't know what happened, one day I went driving and it was really fighting me, grinding on downshifts and everything. Replaced the clutch and the car is fine now.

But always eliminate any possibilities that don't involve dropping the trans first. Check fluid level, bleed the clutch system, ensure no components are bent or loose Yada Yada.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2016 | 11:17 AM
  #9  
kyoo's Avatar
Evolved Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (29)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 10,835
Likes: 283
From: US
again though, sounds like you want to adjust the clutch engagement upwards first and see how that helps. I'm mechanically challenged and it's a piece of cake, there's a how to on the forum. just need a 12mm.

didn't mean the cocktail, I just run regular redline trans, but I'd look at clutch engagement first. it should be awkwardly high
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
moparfan
Evo X General
16
Jun 8, 2016 07:04 AM
Ralli_Red
04-06 Ralliart Engine/Drivetrain
15
Mar 2, 2016 09:59 AM
Toxin
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
6
Sep 9, 2013 08:31 AM
spyderx
Evo Tires / Wheels / Brakes / Suspension
16
Sep 20, 2004 04:22 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:23 PM.