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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 08:08 AM
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Need Advice, Evo 9 Turbo Swap

Hello EvoM, i have a stock evo 8 and im planning to do evo 9 turbo swap and full bolt ons and e85. I have the evo 9 turbo with a upgraded FP housing and powder coated black. Can anyone shine some light on what i need to install this? I heard a few things but i would rather have hard facts before i go buy the parts.

I would like to make at leat 400whp on e85 so if anyone wants to give me a good idea about what fuel set up i need that would be great. Also the wastegate was disconnected from the turbo so im not exactly sure what to do about that. Sorry for the noob questions i just want to make sure im doing it right!
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 01:02 PM
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I bought a turbo kit swap from MAP when I went from my stock 8 turbo to the 9. Came with everything I needed. I also planned on going e85 and went with FIC 1000's and the Walbro 255. My tuner said I would be pretty close maxing out the injectors so I just stayed on 91.
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 01:48 PM
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You can buy an install kit from FP. This has everything you'll need:


http://www.forcedperformance.net/mer...Lancer-TurboHW
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 02:25 PM
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1200+ CC injectors and a genuine walbro 255 should be all you need fuel wise. You should also install a wideband.
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 03:28 PM
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9 turbo on E85 only needs 1000's
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 03:32 PM
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yah thats probably right. I was just thinking about the 400whp on E85 goal. A real 400whp too not just some hail marry pull.
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 03:40 PM
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I've seen them make 400 on a dynojet, not a hail Mary pull.
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
I've seen them make 400 on a dynojet, not a hail Mary pull.
You recall how much headroom the injectors had left? Im a pretty strong adherent to the 80% rule.
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 03:55 PM
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Not sure. But the 80% rule pretty much doesn't matter if your ECU can't add fuel on its own (the stock ECU can't) Also, logged IDC in evoscan isn't a true representation of IDC. It's a number, but, eh... All I know is if ER is comfortable with it, you should be too. These aren't $100 road toon local tooner tards going HAM to make a name for themselves. It's an established tuner making time again proven numbers.
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 04:07 PM
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im just talking about the general 80% rule in electronics/engineering that you shouldn't design something to operate above 80% of its rated capability for longevity/reliability reasons. I do believe you should do your homework when choosing your tuner/shop, then trust their strategy to get you to your goals. Second hand claims from authority though don't mean much to me, especially with so little context so I dunno. I would err on going a little big then small.

P.S. I get the irony of me talking about not pushing things past what they are designed for when we are in fact pushing these engines many times beyond what they where designed to do. Im sure there is a word in German for being aware of your own cognitive dissonance, but being ok with it at the same time lol.

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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 09:42 PM
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Spray lots of wd40 on exhaust hardware prior to removal.

All you need is a evo 9 j pipe. As the 8 will hit starter.

Oil.lines and coolant lines will work. With little to no mod.

E85 cams fuel pump and 1000cc injectors will make 400 hp with no issues including boost leaks.

Ive bolted one up that made 376 on a mustang dyno @ 27 psi with a unknown boost leak
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 02:43 AM
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Made 465hp on the RRE dynapack with 1200 RC injectors, AEM 320 fuel pump, BBK lite turbo, and e85.
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 08:23 AM
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http://boostedfilms.com/joomla/evo-8-vs-9-differences

also, don't forget to set your wastegate pre-load.
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Biggiesacks
im just talking about the general 80% rule in electronics/engineering that you shouldn't design something to operate above 80% of its rated capability for longevity/reliability reasons. I do believe you should do your homework when choosing your tuner/shop, then trust their strategy to get you to your goals. Second hand claims from authority though don't mean much to me, especially with so little context so I dunno. I would err on going a little big then small.

P.S. I get the irony of me talking about not pushing things past what they are designed for when we are in fact pushing these engines many times beyond what they where designed to do. Im sure there is a word in German for being aware of your own cognitive dissonance, but being ok with it at the same time lol.
I wouldn't run a CPU past 80%, but a fuel injector is just an on/off solenoid. You're not creating additional heat or causing wear by running them past 80% duty cycle. It's slightly different than your analogy. And I tend to follow that same rule of thumb when it comes to wiring. Slightly oversized prevents an electrical fire...lol
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