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Old Dec 5, 2018, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
You can make a mustang dyno say whatever you want it to say.

https://youtu.be/sDwjfZvmPHg
Thats true of any dyno though, there are always some dials that can be turned to effect the results. Timeslips don't lie though.
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Originally Posted by Biggiesacks
Thats true of any dyno though, there are always some dials that can be turned to effect the results. Timeslips don't lie though.
Dynoet not so much. You can play with weather correction and load control, but you're not going to make a 150whp car read 650whp. Those things also show up on the dyno sheet print out (weather does anyways). Load control would more or less just be like doing the pull in a higher gear.
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
You can make a mustang dyno say whatever you want it to say.

https://youtu.be/sDwjfZvmPHg
Guess I should have said "properly calibrated Mustang dyno" instead of a real Mustang dyno.
Wow, I didn't know that MD can be tweaked THAT much!!
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And that video had car sounding like a motorcycle.
They wanted to make the dyno trick obvious. LOL
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Dynoet not so much. You can play with weather correction and load control, but you're not going to make a 150whp car read 650whp. Those things also show up on the dyno sheet print out (weather does anyways). Load control would more or less just be like doing the pull in a higher gear.
I'm not very familiar with the different hardware vulnerabilities of different dynos. I think the moral is, trust but verify. There is always this disclaimer that dynos are just tools for tuning the engine and that the numbers aren't as important, unfortunately that's what everyone fixates on. Especially the peak, usually ignoring area under the curve.
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Originally Posted by stevolee
Yeah, I've doing a lot of searches and reading up on the forum, but I just can't seem to get all the right (complete) info so I thought I'd ask for personal experiences now. lol I was leaning towards either going with a Gen 2 GTX3076R or FP Black on 93 pump gas and was hoping someone had experience with both so they can share their thoughts on pros and cons along with what kind of support mods they had. lol
If you have to option to go T3, it's always going to be better. There is no longer an advantage to using an FP turbo. The only reason they were so popular before is because they were stock frame and bolted right up. As a bonus: for those of us in Kalifornia, we could still pass smog.
The newer turbos no longer bolt up and you will never pass a smog inspection.
If you are referring to the old MHI housing black, that is a viable option if you looking to keep things simpler and costs down.
There are other factors such as fuel, etc. All that info, you've probably already read, though.
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The Blouch turbos still use an OEM mitsu housing and bolt right up. They'd also pass inspection since they are stock housings just modified. Blouch 2.0xtr would get you upper 4xx on pump and mid 5xx on E85. And about 50-70hp less with the 1.0xtr (what I have).
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FP is offering MHI housings again.
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FP is offering but $600 extra is a lot. But considering their SS is $400, it's not toooo bad.
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Also, for a Black, the MHI is too restrictive to be efficient. Either go with the smaller MHI Red or go T3.
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Originally Posted by 2006EvoIXer
500whp on pump is either FP Red or Black. With E85, it will be more. By limiting torque by retarding timing, you also sacrifice horsepower in doing so.
Retarding the timing will also spool the turbo faster
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Originally Posted by 3gturbo
Retarding the timing will also spool the turbo faster
Don't you have to retard to -4 or less? This would be like pseudo antilag. My 71hta timing advance drops like a rock from light throttle of 24-30 to 8 degrees. So 12 more degrees of retard?
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As long as EGTs don't go through the roof and make your exhaust wheel go boom.
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Pseudo antilag/launch control isn't nearly as bad as normal antilag that spits fireballs out the muffler. Those destroys turbos in a year or 2.
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As long as EGTs don't go through the roof and make your exhaust wheel go boom.
You didn't use any antilag to your Green right?



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