I have been looking at the ETS Quick Spool Turbo Kits and was wondering if they are worth it? Obviously everyone is going to post the thread to the original ETS Quick Spool Kit etc etc...

There are so many replies and responses that I get confused with what turbo each persons running. I was thinking of getting the G30-900 Kit since I wanted to push around 600-650whp with pump+meth and have a quick spool. The G25 Spool looks really good so hoping the G30 spool isn't that much laggier,

If anyone has any experience with this turbo kit or has any knowledge if you could please put your two cents in.

I want a turbo that could go up to around 750+whp but have a quick spool around 3000rpms.

All replies are greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

3000rpm spool and 750whp? Good luck finding that lol my HTA green gets me 500whp and hits full boost at 4000-4100

 

Your not going to find a turbo that spools full boost at 3000 rpms. I mean I have stock 9b's off my stealth that may do that at like 9 lbs of boost. As stated above the green is about as fast as your going to get and hes doing 4000 ti 4100 rpms thats about where your going to be. I know the turbo I ran before the s372 was basically the same as a black that I had built with all the tricks and I was making 560ish at 5k plus. I had all kinda crazy clippings and billet this and that and still was like 5 to 5500rpms with full boost. The quick spool kits seem pretty cool and ETS knows their ****. I would call them and ask them what they expect out of one of those turbos and make your decission. As far as spool at 3k you min as well change platforms sorry to say.

 

Have not worked directly w/Rons shop (yet) but he has been around the block. This Vid just posted which is in line w/your question

 

that's near stock spool! that is unattainable with 750hp. id suggest down your power goals in trade for a more responsive setup if that's what you're after. More power doesn't mean a faster car necessarily.

 

"Spool" is a relative term, but you would need at least 3.0L of displacement to attain that threshold. Anything on a 2.0L that flows 750WHP worth of air is not hitting the 20 psi level before 4,500 RPM on a 2.0L. Hell, the stock turbo is probably the biggest turbo that will make 20 psi by 3,000 RPM (in a lower gear) and it will get you to mayyybe 400HP out of it on an optimized setup. You need to re-think this.

 

Maybe we are all over looking this. Maybe he is thinking 750 to the crank? That would make it around what 525 wheel? Still kinda slim but idk.

 

No, it's right there in plain English. 750whp with useable boost by 3,000 RPM. If it was an LS engine, sure, but anyone who fundamentally misunderstands engine and turbocharger dynamics like that probably isn't ready for ownership of a car with that kind of power.

 

The stock turbo doesn't even "spool" at 3000rpm in 3rd gear. It makes 300wtq on E85 around 3400rpm. OP has an unrealistic idea of how this all works.

 

I'll give an answer to the title while completely ignoring the hp goals listed because everyone is right, it isn't attainable.

I love my MHI FP Red on my high compression 2.0. It spools similar my FP Green on the stock motor; very similar to l888apex's setup, but makes about 600whp/500wftlbs. Its no high RPM monster but it is a really fun street setup with usable power available basically on demand all time and plenty fast.

I'm going to tell you the same thing I tell everyone when they are deciding on a turbo/engine/car setup, figure out what you actually plan to use the car for and build for that. Don't get caught up in having 750whp because its just a number. Build the car to excel at whatever you plan to use it for because that will be the most fun.

 

Stock Turbo + 500 Shot of nitrous

Maybe some day there will be an electrically assisted turbo that can do all the things...but that isn't now.

 

6765 Pump gas 600awhp all day long! 800awhp on C-16! but it's been like over 10 years with that set up there must be new stuff available in 2022!

 

Thanks for all the responses. I am aware that achieving that power with a turbo that spools early is almost not possible especially on a 4 banger. However I was trying to ask about a turbo that can produce UP TO 750WHP and starts spooling around 3000rpms. It seems that making 750whp and having a quick spool is not possible?

My current setup starts spooling around 4500rpm and therefore I called it laggy, I hit full boost around 5000rpms. Currently pushing 615whp and 460ft/lbs on a mustang dyno.

I seen a setup on a g25-660 from AdamLZ where he was able to spool right after 3000rpms and hit 550whp at max boost past 5000rpms holding to redline. That seems like a very powerful street setup.

I am asking if the ETS Quick Spool Turbo Kit would achieve that if I went with the bigger G30-900 or any turbo relatively the same size. I was assuming the G30-900 should have more punch out of it than a G25-660.

As for the 750WHP, Im just using that as reference or example. G25-660 makes up to 660 crank hp, G30-900 makes up to 900 crank hp. In turn if I did race fuel + meth I think I could hit around 700-750whp.

I am no expert, still very much learning and new to all of this so your replies are greatly appreciated

 

MIVEC + EFR 7163 IWG twin scroll housing probably is as responsive as it can get in term of boost threshold and transient response
You can probably expect like 500WHP tap out of it(Limited by A/R)
750WHP, 2.0L and hitting boost threshold by 3000RPM, there is no such thing in 4G land unless your build consist of nitrous assistance to fill up the power gap before target boost threshold is reached
If you insist on 750WHP and boost threshold by 3000RPM, you probably need to move on to GT-R for that, 4G63 just don't have enough of cubic capacity to do that

 

Just spoke to ETS, Seems like my thinking was not extremely far off.

I asked them about the G30-900 .83ar and its power levels, capabilities etc. They told me it would be an ideal setup for the street as it has a decent spool time along with loads of top end.

.83ar should get me to spool up around 3500 and will hit full boost around 4500, and it has the ability to see up to 750whp with the right fueling/afr/meth setups etc.

Also told me with pump gas + meth I should be seeing anywhere from 600-650whp. I think this might be the way to go for me.