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Old May 14, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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exaust manifold same as dsm?

im not sure about this one, but a guy is trying to sell me a new tubular manifold for a eclipse/talon/laser. he says it will be a perfect fit with a 50 trim, but il have to mess with the radiator hose. is this true? to me they dont look like they will fit.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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Nah, unfortunately its a "Mirror Image" of what the EVO uses.. if you look at the wastegate flange, its on the right side.. on the Evo you should see it on the left side..

If you physically bolted it up, you'd have to somehow get the wastegate ducting around past the turbo since the inlet for the turbo is on that side.. Also keep in mind the entire turbo would be offset to the passenger side, and it will most certainly hit the accessory components (I think the A/C Compressor is over there)

A correct "Evo" manifold should have its turbo flange offset to the right not the left, and the wastegate would be on the left..

Sorry, but it seems like the guy's trying to unload something he has, or he doesn't know enough about the Evo to know the later Evo's engine orientation is reversed to what the DSM's are..

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Old May 14, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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Nah, unfortunately its a "Mirror Image" of what the EVO uses.. if you look at the wastegate flange, its on the right side.. on the Evo you should see it on the left side..

If you physically bolted it up, you'd have to somehow get the wastegate ducting around past the turbo since the inlet for the turbo is on that side.. Also keep in mind the entire turbo would be offset to the passenger side, and it will most certainly hit the accessory components (I think the A/C Compressor is over there)

A correct "Evo" manifold should have its turbo flange offset to the right not the left, and the wastegate would be on the left..

Sorry, but it seems like the guy's trying to unload something he has, or he doesn't know enough about the Evo to know the later Evo's engine orientation is reversed to what the DSM's are..

would it actually offset the turbo to the passenger side? remember id have to have a reverse spinning turbo and the compressor side would be on the drivers side. it should then have the turbo intake on the side the factory turbo is now. forced perfomance is making an equivalent turbo to the "green" for the evo, and from what i was told it is reverse spinning like the factory turbo. so, if it actually does bolt up, it looks like the only problem would be the waste gate placment. maybe they can make one with it on the opposite side? or i could just route the dump to the passenger side. but that might not be worth the effort. i dunno.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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anyone know any other manifolds for a t3/t4 under $500?
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Old May 14, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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Yeah.. go to www.lancershop.com they have a manifold with a standard t3/t4 flange on it.. not all that expensive either..

And no, the turbo's "Hot side" and the O2 housing is fairly large.. the compressor side is on the driver side.. so the flange for the turbo is offset towards the driver side so the back of the turbo and the O2 housing isn't too close to the accessories. Regardless of it being a reverse scroll design, direction of rotation isn't relevent to its orientation, just the outlet, hence the reverse scroll so the outlet is towards the front of the engine.

The only complication about assembling your own turbo kit is the piping.. and the orientation of the compressor outlet so you can line it up (and not hit) in such a way where you can mate it with the lower intercooler pipe with minimal modification.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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Here is our manifold for $495. It also has a lifetime warranty.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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not bad pricing at all. i once did see a manifold from ssautochrome on ebay with a t3/t4 flange, downpipe, dump pipe, and hot ic pipe for about 575. i wish i could find that again, or get ahold of ssautochrome. i cant find their number.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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Here is our manifold for $495. It also has a lifetime warranty.
i like your pricing, but some of those bolts look like a pain to get to. are they?
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Just install your manifold onto your turbo before you put it on the car. You might want to do a search on sschrome before buying. Good luck with your decision.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 04:15 PM
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Just install your manifold onto your turbo before you put it on the car. You might want to do a search on sschrome before buying. Good luck with your decision.
are they not recomended? or bad products.. ive heard some good things though
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I don't like to bad about other companies products. I would suggest doing a search on some DSM forums.
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