View Poll Results: XEDE or UTEC
XEDE
70
50.36%
UTEC
69
49.64%
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XEDE or UTEC?
My vote goes to Xede as I am using it. 4K Miles with no issues. I am sure the Utech is great as well. I just feel very comfortable with Shiv and his boys customer service, Very nice. When I call them and say I am Mhyar they always remember me right away, which makes any customer happy. When it comes to tuning I am kind of dum (I am trying to learn) but customer service and supporting the product is very important in my eyes. With Vishnu you have all the Support you need from one phone call.
Mhyar
Mhyar
FWIW the Firmware upgrade v1.7 for the UTEC has officially been released, therefore any reference I've made to open loop fueling, injector scaling, etc. Now applies to everyone..
My $.02...
I had an Xede on my 03 Evo and when I picked up my RS I was shopping around to see if there was anything better. Not that I was unhappy with the Xede but I'm always open to new stuff and certainly more power. I wound up getting another Xede...it's flexible and safe relative to the other offerings. Another thing that was a real turnoff for the UTEC is the relative lack of support...at least on the TXS website. The Xede offers numerous boilerplates that will give you a safe map. Sure you can benefit from a custom tune...but unless you have something substantially outside the mapped stages I don't think it's that big of a deal, plus the Xede allows the safety paramters to stay in place which is very important to me.
I had an Xede on my 03 Evo and when I picked up my RS I was shopping around to see if there was anything better. Not that I was unhappy with the Xede but I'm always open to new stuff and certainly more power. I wound up getting another Xede...it's flexible and safe relative to the other offerings. Another thing that was a real turnoff for the UTEC is the relative lack of support...at least on the TXS website. The Xede offers numerous boilerplates that will give you a safe map. Sure you can benefit from a custom tune...but unless you have something substantially outside the mapped stages I don't think it's that big of a deal, plus the Xede allows the safety paramters to stay in place which is very important to me.
Originally Posted by Noize
The ECU+ is a great alternative to a reflash, but lacks the ultimate features that come through firmware updates of a more supported piggy like the XEDE and the UTEC.
Tom
The only reason I bought the UTEC over Xede was because there are several subaru shops in my area that's very familiar with the UTEC. I was just worried I would buy the Xede and no one would know how to use it.
I don't care much for off the shelf maps and if I was in the market for a piggyback when Shiv came to Dallas I would have bought the Xede.
I don't care much for off the shelf maps and if I was in the market for a piggyback when Shiv came to Dallas I would have bought the Xede.
yes but the v3 update for the xede didn't get released this time again. I like the xede but their are never any up dates. I guess it will be next year when no one will want one. I would go with the aem if I could .
Whats hex code programming? 
Originally Posted by Ted B
Amen!
With some 10 years of hex code programming under my belt, I can assure you this statement is fact. Inevitably, the tool is oftentimes unfairly blamed for the shortfalls of the tuner or the tuning methodology.
I researched aftermarket tuning devices at length before making my purchase. I didn't want anything 'grass roots', and I didn't want a jumble of various devices. I wanted a simple, clean unit that was 'invisible', and retained the MAS as well as the OBDII diagnostics and full functionality. I also wanted something that was supported by persons with a solid reputation and who've demonstrated proficiency with the device. The Xede made the most sense for my mods and my daily reliability/drivability requirements, and so I chose that one.
If I were going with more of a budget route and expected to piecemeal things together over time, I may have opted for a mbc and S-AFC, and/or possibly a Dynoflash. If I was going with a larger capacity turbo, very large injectors and such, I would have opted for the higher priced, race-oriented EMS at the expense of factory features. I feel strongly that what you choose should be suited to what you expect as a realistic endpoint in your modding scheme. I often see people purchase items that won't really help them or are not particuarly well suited for their needs, and aftermarket ECU mods probably rank somewhere fairly high on the list.
With some 10 years of hex code programming under my belt, I can assure you this statement is fact. Inevitably, the tool is oftentimes unfairly blamed for the shortfalls of the tuner or the tuning methodology.
I researched aftermarket tuning devices at length before making my purchase. I didn't want anything 'grass roots', and I didn't want a jumble of various devices. I wanted a simple, clean unit that was 'invisible', and retained the MAS as well as the OBDII diagnostics and full functionality. I also wanted something that was supported by persons with a solid reputation and who've demonstrated proficiency with the device. The Xede made the most sense for my mods and my daily reliability/drivability requirements, and so I chose that one.
If I were going with more of a budget route and expected to piecemeal things together over time, I may have opted for a mbc and S-AFC, and/or possibly a Dynoflash. If I was going with a larger capacity turbo, very large injectors and such, I would have opted for the higher priced, race-oriented EMS at the expense of factory features. I feel strongly that what you choose should be suited to what you expect as a realistic endpoint in your modding scheme. I often see people purchase items that won't really help them or are not particuarly well suited for their needs, and aftermarket ECU mods probably rank somewhere fairly high on the list.
