Lightened roof (8.8 lbs)
5 More hp, 13 more tq
lighter wheels
front limited slip / active center
new wastegate design

 

Yea but that explains the 276 horsepower and the 286 tourqe, but why r the times drag wise slower. Most people forget that every new 2005 evo(RS, MR, or Normal EVO) comes with 276hp, 286 tourqe not just the MR, because of the 10.5 hotside. Id like to see a 2005 evo compared to a Evo MR and see the difference, but im pretty sure on the track the MR should show better times but i wonder 0 to 60 and 1/4????

 

Shall I refer you to the pyramid of speed, gentlemen? Just joking with ya.

Well, I don't believe that the MR is faster than the "GSR" or RS. "More refined?" you ask? Perhaps, all I know is it has AYC, a bit more horsepower, and is for some reason "eternally forgiving"

 

hahahahahaha nice website

 

It has the same hp/tq as the 05 GSR and RS. None of them have AYC. You might be mistaking that for ACD. Which every 05 EVO has.

 

Dont know.

Possible answers:

6 Speed for better powerband and turbo usage
the extra hp/tq (if your comparing to the 04 or below)
the 30 pounds off
the ACD system (This is probably most likely it for the track)
Possibly a better tuned ECU?
Maybe the driver who tested the 03's and 04's were slackers?
Maybe the MR badge secretly adds some extra horsepower?
Or maybe the MR badge is really a secret nitrous power up?

Does it really matter? Your 03 is two seconds slower when driven and compared by proffessional drivers who review cars for a living. Who cares, its not like everyone you run into is gonna even be able to get close to a 0-60 of 4.6.

Unless your attempting to race a compident(SP can never get this word right) driver who has taken numerous driving courses and/or has alot of racing experience it wont matter.

ACD, AYC, Vortex this, Generator that, its all magazine racing. The majority of drivers who own evo's and sti's are not full time racers who can drive the car to its limits and beyond. They are slow, unbelievably stupid, dont know how to use a turn signal, like to hit curbs people who never understand the value of driving classes.

Now I am not saying anyone on this board is like this (I wouldnt know). But the few Evo's and STi's I have encountered in Houston lol...lets just stop there.

Its faster according to the Pro's, but the question is, can you pull off a 4.6 0-60 every time without having to drop the clutch? If not, then there is no need to worry yet because you arnt at the cars limits. I say you but I do not mean you as in you the thread starter. I mean as a question people should ask themselves. Politely that is, no need being mean to yourself.

This isnt meant to really be a flame, but more of a wake up call. Unless you can push its limits, then I fail to see how it matters.

my .02.

 

I'd like to see the stats between the 03', 04', and 05' models... From what I've read yeah they made a bunch of stuff lighter on the MR (wheels, roof, etc) but with the added differential- it's still heavier than tha earlier models.

 

They also added alot of stuff to them as well. The MR lost like what 30 lbs? But I am pretty sure that a 6 speed weights more then a 5 speed. Also so does the ACD system. Its obvious they have added to all of the Evo's where they have taken away so.

 

TEST EM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Well since most people think that drag racing doesnt matter i have some slalom and figure eight times for the 03-04 lancer evolution and the MR evolution.

03-04 Evolution slalom avg. mph. is 71.4 mph
03-04 Evolution figure eight time/avg G is 24.9/0.70g

05 MR Evolution Slalom avg. mph. is 70.1 mph
05 MR Evolution figure eight time/avg is 25.7/0.70

As far as i see it, according to the "professionals", the 03-04 Evo is faster and handles better. With bilstien dampers, light BBS wheels, aluminum roof, Active Center Differential, Vortex Generator, 10.5 hotside, front limited slip, 6 speed tranny, 5 more horsepower, 13 more torque and a price tag starting at 35,499$, it weights more and runs a slower time in every category according to the professionals. Im not saying that with the average person driving the 03 against an MR will win, but simply as professional drivers test each car the 03s and 04s are faster, maybe not better or of better quality but out performs the MR.

Now remember im not saying that the 03 is better than the MR, ive heard a alot about how much better the ride quality is in the new MRs, but thats not what this thread was about, the thread stated "What makes an MR faster??!" when its simply not.

 

woa very interesting

 

Good find on the numbers but you are comparing numbes run at two different tracks, with vastly different surfaces. A stock 2003 run at the same track as the 2005 MR runs to sixty in about 5.0 and through the quarter in about 13.5@102 if I remember correctly, so given the same track surface the MR is faster. You wouldn't know that unless you were there, so I'm not bagging on you just clarifying the reasons for the differences in numbers.

 

See Motor Trend's October 2004 issue for MR vs. STi comparison. In addition to the 2005 versions of each player we had along for comparison sake a stock 2003 Evo and the MT long-term 2004 STi. The MR was faster than the STi's by about a second a lap and the 2003 Evo by about 2 seconds a lap. Same driver, same track, same day, so those numbers are very comparable, the MR is simply faster.

 

Ok i just called Motor Trend up lol and they said that everyone of there road tests are done at the same track at the Moror Trend Headquarters. So its the same track that tests 1/4 mile, 0 to 60, figure 8s and slalom.

 

Same situation as the acceleration numbers, vastly different tracks. I don't know these numbers off the top of my head like I do the acceleration numbers, but I'm sure I can find them once I get into the office and look them up. We tend to run the best numbers we've gotten on any one vehicle (because we test some vehicles more than once), but in this case the first 2003 Evo we tested was run at the Ford Proving Grounds in Kingman, AZ where every number run that day was a record setter for us, so they are not comparable to our every day test numbers run at our usual test site in CA. I hope that clarifies the differences.