Good one, that would be interesting since "Motor Trend headquarters" is on Wilshire Boulevard. D-OH!

 

All i said is that all the cars are tested at the same track.

 

99% of the time we do test at the same track, but the numbers you are quoting are from tests done at Ford's APG, see the June 2003 Motor Trend, Top Speeding story. The numbers you should be using for comparison sake (to the MR) are the January 2004 issue, the Motor Trend "of the year" numbers, which were run at the regular test location. I remember the acceleration numbers very well because I ran them, Chris did the handling portion of the testing so I don't have those memorized, I'll look them up once I get into the office.

 

Hmmmm I'm confused yet intrigued. Maybe we're all wrong and the Lancer OZ is the fastest? lol

 

Ok that makes sence but then when posting numbers about cars in Motor Trend why dont they say anything about different tracks etc.. I can look at the track times in the back, compare them, and see that the 03 Evo that they tested is faster. It says nothing about different tracks. The numbers im quoting came from the road tests part of the magizine thats in there every month. SO if you say why am i using them for comparion why post them back there. Those numbers have been in there since the evo came out and theres no star next to it saying *done at Ford's APG* Post real times then. Test the 03 Evo with the MR on the same track.

 

Road&Track Test
2003 Evo 0-60 4.8sec
2005 Evo MR 0-60 4.3sec
2003 Evo 1/4 13.4 @ 102mph
2005 Evo MR 1/4 12.9 @ 107.6mph

You see the difference now???
Also check this site up:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....ber=1&preview=
Also
http://motortrend.com/roadtests/seda...2_first_mitsu/

Motortrend tested 03 EVO 0-60 5sec and 1/4 for 13.5 @ 101mph lol

MR also has 17.6lbs less unsprung weight due to lighter BBS wheels
IMO MR is just faster... my 2cents....

 

the MR is faster because of the Vortex Generator =)

 

I agree that those first test number done at APG have caused lots of confusion, but we tend to run the best numbers in the Road Trest Review. We've probably tested 6-8 different Evo's in the last few years, including our long-term Evo, twice, so it makes sense to run the best numbers we've gotten, although maybe we should rethink that for the future. The numbers from the January 2004 issue should be the best to use since they were run at the same track as the MR numbers, that's why I suggest looking at those numbers instead.

 

Add a cat-back and maybe a higher octane gas will improve its performance, pump gas here in L.A. sucks 91 octane only.

 

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a second the article u posted up there says the MR has 280 horsepower and 295 torque, it has no radio, and the starting price according to that article is 33,000?????? HMmmmm and that test was done in august. I thought that these cars first came in the U.S for motor trend, car and driver etc to test in october? and the 0 to 60 is 4.3?? i highly doubt the evo can keep up with a Ferrari Challenge Stradale and that runs a 0 to 60 in 4.3, with 425 horspower v8. And its only 4 tenths off in the quarter miles the ferrari runs a 12.5.

 

the MR shown in the road and track article also has smoked taillights and rear lights, US models dont have those. BUt im pretty sure the ones in japan do which i think i heard had more horsepower and were faster then the MRs in the United states. It also says the MR has a bigger Turbo???????

 

You guys are all wrong!

I do not have time to go verify or research it yet, but according to Car & Driver's MR test on Oct issue, the MR has a short final gear. This is by far the only factor can make the MR faster than our 03-04 EVO.

I believed C&D is the only mag or source I recalled which mention this difference between the MR and other EVO.

This actually solves a lot of misteries of the MR. I remembered the Best Motoring Video tested the MR vs EVO, the MR has a lower top speed, and according to Best Motoring, they do not know why either, but they think it might be the extra downforce from the Vortex Generator. Besides, MR is heavier than regular no-sunroof EVO, the extra 5hp, aluminum roof, light wheels shouldn't make a big difference in accelerations, according to the test performed by Best Motoring Video.

If Mitsu really swapped a shorter final gear on the MR to get that performance edge, I don't think MR is that attractive anymore. Imagine, if your EVO can be 300-500 rpm higher in any speed, you are right there at the power band!

Hope someone knows the technical specs on the MR and can be able to verify this

 

nice post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Hey Evo Neil, I thought the 03 Evo, tested at the same time as the MR and STI was "someone's car"; therefore, the driver was a bit easier on it. So although they were tested at the same track, the numbers are not 100% representative of how a 03 would perform

 

Hey now what about the 2004 GSR... What's all this "03" talk lol.