Oops, I'm getting my down payment back today

Good things will come to those who wait....

 

Yes, I did drag race my M3 and Mustang. Now i drive a truck. Anyways, i'm planning to go to racing school or maybe taking a rallying course when time permits. I'm just busy at work and need to save up funds for this expensive hobby. Might take a couple of years.

We are car enthusits not average joe's. You don't seem to care about performance to the extreme and just want an average car. What about a camry? Quiet, cheap, reliable. Most of us want it all and the true performance fans not consumer report fans. We dont' want a nice car we want a work of art!

I personally appreciate the engineering on a car more than anything. That is why i've studied as an engineer. Well, actually i'm in chemical but, most all engineer like the principle of a well design product.

 

I plan on using the EVO almost exclusivly for racing, or on a nice night drive here and there. It will be my third car. I want every competative advantage possible, and plan on going to Texas World Speedway as often as I can.
Most of the crap like the Brembos and wheels and other stuff I could care less about, because most of it will be going in the garbage for upgrades, but the ACD/AYC is one of those things I can't just slap on later. Id be happy with an RS with ACD and dual air bags (to be street legal) and an AC system (its hot in Houston). All the extra stuff is crap to me, and it hurts me that I will have to pay for it, unless I want to wait years for used cars.

 

I gotta agree with gtr there. I love technology. Thats why I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering. Its also why I love the Evo series and Skyline series. Unforchunately, Skylines are just too difficult and expensive to get into the states. I dont have $20k+ to spend on getting one US spec by Motorex. Plus shipping, plus buying the car, plus etc. I also used to be a huge WRX fan, still am a bit, but the Evo won me over and I've been waiting for years for Mitsu to figure out that there is a market here in the states. If they blow it this time, I'm going back to Subbie for an Sti and say screw Mitsu

 

A race car with a/c and airbags..... sounds like you are really doing some REAL racing.



Just in case you guys didn't do all the research, airbags are not even allowed to be active in a racecar. A/C adds weight and drag on the engine.... Plan to install a rollcage? Otherwise you are just talking about track days, not actual racing. Signaled passing is not even close to "Racing".

 

Now everyone is going to be a rally driver....... there are about 100 rally drivers in the USA out of the 250+ million people!

I am pretty sure the EVO VIII without ayc/acd will be more than just about 99% of the people can handle. You guys talk big but there is no support. "I'm busy now, but soon......"

I can admit that I will not be "racing" the Evo (maybe drag race it a few times but that takes little talent). I will be taking it to track days and I am sure that the standard AWD will be sufficient. You don't get timed, you don't outbrake people into turns at "track days". You go to learn the course, drive fast and have a good time....... it is not RACING.

I do have a S2000 and 914 Porsche (with a chevy v8)so, I am somewhat of a car guy, but I don't think the AYC/ACD **** will be stop me from buying an EVO.

It seems that everyone just wants something to ***** about. If the car had AYC/ACD everyone would ***** about the extra weight.

 

Hey TearItUpSports, if you are fust going to throw away your Brembos, wheels and other stuff, I'll take em!

 

This is why i wouldnt get a first year evo. Once they completely sell everyone that was in production, we will then see more options for the car.......Thats just my theory

 

Hey MEGABUSA,

The bottom line without ACD/AYC. I actually just want ACD but what makes the evo8 better than a Wrx STI? If the U.S. STI comes with the active diffs the car is faster on and off the road. People want to buy the best car for the money and if Subaru do decide to bring the STI we are a 2nd rated non-competiton rally car. If that is comforting in your mind good for you and .

 

Since when is the rally only way to race your car? There are so many other types of racing and sooo many more people that are doing it on all kind of different levels!

You are right about that! For most guys/girls, car with a decent AWD system and 270+ HP will be more than enough for everyday driving. Some people could go and by the car just because it has some features that other one doesn't.

Also, the specifics of the EVO comes only when using a full throttle a lot. If driven lazy, car is no different than regular 4 door sedan. Once pushed to the limits, it shows why that car is different than all of the others! And AYC/ACD combo helps that feeling! Remember that!

My car is in the same category as the EVO (power and handling wise) and it is still as heavy as the fully loaded GSR. Once I retire it for the racing only, it will loose additional 200 lbs, but that is about it. Even then, it will be heavier than an RS model will all the goodies! So, don't jump ahead, relax and chill out. It will be much better for your hart!

Mr. AWD

 

The only real use for the adjustability is if there is some slipping (as I understand it). So unless you are racing in the rain, snow, gravel or dirt, I doubt it is much use. What kind of other racing is there? Auto-X. I would imagine the stock AWD system would be plenty good. Do you honestly think there are many people who are capable of dialing in the splits for better times? Road Racing - WHAT CLASS??? Possibly the NASA USTCC but the car is too fast for that class. So there will be a few folks (<100)actually racing the EVO in a condition where they may benefit from the adjustability, and 5900 other guys driving theirs on the road. That clearly is not worth the weight and problems associated with it for Mitsu.

Like I said before, it is simply a toy that won't be missed by more than a few people. Do you think more than 10 people with $60k Landcruisers actually need all of the locking differentials and **** that is loaded on them? NO.

Just my .02

My Hart is fine.

 

An EVO is an EVO whether you race or not is a mute point. The car is known for what it has accomplished and equipped with. And if the standard features the car is known for is not included, then people, including myself, feel short changed and its a disappointment. Its like bringing over a Lamborghini Diablo to the states with 8 cylinders (and actually call it a Diablo). Give me a break.

 

Why would anyone feel short changed on something that most people don't even understand how to use properly. You can add a knob to your dash, turn it and pretend.... same affect essentially.

I could understand if this was awd vs fwd or something like that but......... it's not.

 

Ok, everyone keeps saying that the ACD wouldn't be used by most people. I disagree. There's a wonderful setting on it for "snow". Most everybody North of Arkansas will be able to appreciate that. And the "gravel" setting? I lived in Colorado for a number of years, and there are more dirt roads out there than paved ones. My house was at the end of a 5 mile stretch of dirt road that no one else used, so hell yeah I did a bit of "non-sanctioned amateur rally racing".

Point is, it is one more assistance item. Mitsubishi will be foolish for taking it off. There aren't too many serious performance cars here in America where you can flip a switch, and it'll go from being a true bad-*** car to a bad weather car.

 

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