hahahaha

good thinking, but that will only cause accidents.

 

wtf? funny SHT ,

 

Look, I'm more concerned with the safety stewards or operating people NOT turning people away who had r-compounds. I hold to the belief that r-compounds shouldn't be used when the HIGHS for the day/week/month are 55-60 degrees on one or two days. There are people that says it's fine... I've heard from different people saying it's not. It comes down to what we were brought up to beleive and that's something we'll have to agree to disagree on.

All it takes is one simple mistake and it's gonesville. The best auto-xers in the country many times still make mistakes while running a course. I'm not holding anything like that aginst you. Given the conditions... a small mistake off the 'line' and it's bigger consequenses when there's sand/snow on the ground than if it were an 70-80 degree day and the lots been used for the past couple months to scrub sand/snow off of it.

Many times you said you shouldn't have run them, and you knew it. Not being able to put yourself in check when it's called for is one of the biggest causes of accidents because the driver is overconfident in their abilities.. not seeing the whole picture. I do it too. You're not alone in this. However, what's gotten me really irritated is your attitude here on evo m acting like a little kid because people critisized your choice in tire for the day. Critisism is GOOD... *if* you learn from it. When there's many people saying it was a dumb move... because it was YOU... you're not seeing it. It's like 'love is blind'. Do you understand that?

Sometimes drivers need to take a step back and evaluate things instead of saying 'well if 10 others said it's ok, then it's got to be ok'. (Not realizing those 10 others probably have a few more years of auto-x experience on r-compounds.) Well there are more than 10 people telling you it wasn't ok here on this forum... if you listened to your ten... why are you discounting us? Afterall... you go with the majority, right?

Again... I have more critisism for the event runners than you.

Brennen.... It was raining heavily and it was in the 40-50s. You're right. When I say you 'shouldn't' run them in the rain or in the cold.. to me 'shouldn't' means you're not doing any good and they're not going to grip (set-up choice). Even you said you switched to your streets and had more grip... and more grip means what? More control.

Also... Gwinnett had:
1) Less curbs to hit
2) Was set up as a national event with natioanl caliber drivers running in it (ie: expereince in the rain)
3) Less lightpoles
4) There wasn't any snow on the ground... just off the dry line.

Factor those four things in, then look at the event at the Ball Park and ask if the two venues were alike.

--kC

 

I have never heard anyone say "I was in an accident because I was going to slow or that I was being too careful." Too fast not careful enough - and hopefully lessons learned.

Well flame levels and event arrangers wishing this would go away aside, if:

1. "Johnny" is OK and the worst he has is a really funny story for the pub.
2. Everyone involved in the event and everyone in contact with this thread leaves having learned from the experience to make tomorrow better.

Then all is not lost.

 

Yup...CHA CHING!!! $$$$$

 

funny is funny, but I think this guy is a dumb-***...

 

I'm not hard headed, believe me this is my first year auto-xn and have listen and learn from some of the best drivers out there. I am not being a D8ck or a jerk about the whole incident and acting like I'm above all. Like I said I needed to blow off steam due to the numerous flames on this forum about the whole incident. No one here except for the people that were at the event knew exactly, the context and the conditions. When I pulled up to the event, I wasa literally shock to find that the course was being set on snow and I believe that a lot of other drivers that came was possibly thinking or sayinig the same thing. I remember who you are now and I actually let you drive my old sti back at the subaru challenge event at ripken and commented about understeer.

 

KC.

See what I mean?

 

Uh, yeah, that's exactly what I mean. He did pass the finish line.

 

KC, does your region restrict R tires in cold weather? In 4 years running with this group, this is the most bizarre thing I have seen. No one has been injured since I have run with them. Also the course design was fine I think. The porto potty placement was due to snow banks being where they got placed the last time I was there. I do agree r tires are in those conditions is a very bad choice, obiviously. The odd thing is the porto's were approx. 120' from finish line. They also were perpendicular to it. So imagine he came thru the finish side ways, hit street, car grabbed and went straight for the porto's. No way in a million years would I have thought that was possible. Well I hope all invovled in this and reading this learn something from it. Oh yea, it was known to all members that lot had snow on it. I was exicted to run a snow cross with snow tires!

 

We don't run in cold weather. If there's snow, events get cancelled. Anything other than that, we call it rally-x and different tires are used and rcompounds are not allowed (all seasons, snows or rally tires only)

We've had events cancelled when we showed up in early April with an inch or more on the ground. We've not allowed people to run with r-compounds/slicks when the rain was so heavy. (I almost hit a tree with Azenis... I was going straight rear end of the car hit the puddle and just pointed me at the tree... the course being designed with safety in mond allowd me to not hit it... and it's the only tree anywhere near the course... it's got my name on it now. )

It's a safety issue... one our region is not willing to accept the risk that something may happen. We run April to October. That's only times in the year that the weather is satisfactory to run in.

--kC

 

hell yeah

 

wait, it has been edited to:

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/numa.php

 

i can't believe someone caught him slipping like this.

wow.

what a fool.

GL to your future developments.

please learn from this nothing move.

 

Sorry to bring this back. But were those really dealer plates on them? He says he auto crosses a lot and he has a lot of experience, but does he mean in the Evo or another car? Someone noted on the first few pages that the rear windshield look like a dealer sticker.