yup thats what i thought about the 2.5L Subie cant make the power to overcome the evo so they had to go with a bigger displacment to "overpower" the evo.

 

If I wouldn't have been able to get an Evo when they first came out, I would've got an STi, my rally car lust was at such a fever pitch at the time. Face it, they're both kick @ss cars, and kudos to Mitsubishi for being able to take on the STi given the displacement advantage that car has.

Why don't we all get back to what's really important, which is ripping on Mustangs!

 

How exactly do you cheap when the competition is to design a more powerful, better handling, AWD production car? I think they just got innovative and tried something new. Unfortunately, it didn't work out for them. the 2.5L STI engine is more problem ridden than the 2.0L in the WRX. It is nearly impossible to do any light modding to it without significant power loss. The WRX is a lot easier to mod, is capable of more power in the long run, and is cheaper to boot.

Furthermore, if you really want to do a comparison between likeminded cars, why does the GSR evo always get thrown up against the STI? why not throw an MR up there? the GSR is made to compete against the WRX. The STi is made to get spanked by the MR. I don't want to go off on a rant here.. but.....

 

The 5-50mph runs are a bit deceptive. A 5-50 mph favors the STi due to it's more aggresive gearing. It's able to max out it's 2nd gear and hit it's peak horsepower. TheEVO on the other hand can hold 2nd through 60 mph which means it's not hitting it's horsepower peak in 2nd. Seems like a stacked result. Usually the street start test is a 5-60 mph not a 5-50 but C&D probably changed it so that the STi was not handycapped by having 2 gear shifts.

Anyways, either way you cut it the two cars truely awesome. Each has it's strengths and weaknesses. Looking at the numbers above only proves how close the two are.

 

Oh how I love the flame wars with sti vs evo.. can I play, *flame suit in hand*

Even with the conditions and crap tires the evo held its own.. Sounds to me, like this artical is going to start a new war... woohooo.

 

I was merely trying to illustrate the craziness of both Evo & STi owners. We both love the hell out of our cars, and refuse to believe the other is one iota better in any area no matter what is printed about them.

 

too bad subie had to go against their rally rules of 2.0 Liter engines Ive seen stats on the jdm sti with the 2.0L having 260 something hp and the evo still having 276 hp. I would say mitsu is still good due to the fact that they detuned their evos and subie uptuned their stis and they are at a tie. to me, overall, evo > sti. Mitsu kept true to their rally heritage and STILL ties with an upgraded USDM sti. go but still both are great cars. But i would rather go with the one who didnt have to go against their rally heritage and still tying or beating the "cheating" company.

 

You gotta be kidding me GSR is meant to compete with WRX. GSR/MR competes well to most STi. RS is good to Spec C. FQ to Type25,S203,etc. There're too many version of each so general rule is just look at comparable price models.

 

I 2nd that my boy.. GSR to WRX lol.. thats just a bad idea.

 

Didn't the EVO win that comparison, damn what an idiot this nasti or whatever is.

 

i dont understand the point of this thread...there are like 28397491012 articles that show different numbers...the fact that they put inferior tires on the evo accompanied by tests that would benefit the sti is laughable...and to top it off the evo still won the comparison

ahaha

 

"Nevertheless, we still rank the STi a notch behind the Evo, despite the updates, despite an outstanding all-wheel-drive system, despite increased traction. If you want to pin the tail on the donkey, in a word the culprit is understeer."

yes, the evo won-again *yawns*

 

I think you mean torque...not horsepower...my friend. You cannot have max horsepower at 3500rpm and then still have a 7000rpm redline. Horsepower is directly proportional to engine rpm speed until the combustion in the combustion cambers is restricted by the insufficient air flow or fuel. Don't mean to be a *****. But please get your facts straight coz it irritates me when one sounds like a know-it-all yet can't differentiate between Horsepower and Torque.

I am sorry if I sounded a little rude.

 

damn... who let this guy out from under his bridge...

here's the facts...

C&D MODDED that Evo, and Modded it to make it handle worse on purpose... see troll, the Advans may be a better tire than the bridgestones, which it is, but it's STANDARD Equipment designed for the EVO... thus, C&D should've ran 87oct in the subie to knock down it's performance to level with the "claimed" Evo power... and see what happens... LOL...

C&D must of been getting heat that they were going to lose some advertiser's support, and try to pull at least a bit of saving grace to keep them... guess what, they still couldn't rig the original test with a Fully Stock MR... what still won by the way???

and what won basically EVERY comparo head-to-head match ups in mags and on TV shows??? so what's the Evo's record now??? 65-1, and that loss from this rigged test... I lost lot's of respect for pulling this stunt... but, i guess journalists don't make enough money these days......

Hopefully, you will be banned for this waste of bandwidth you've just caused this wonderful site... go patrol the bridges at the SRT-4 forums or Honda ones... and search ebay for a life, maybe you can find one there...

thank you for inspiring us to clarify that test for you and other subie fanboys out there with the proven realistic facts...

 

Here is an interesting read from Motor Trend's 'Speeding! Top Speed Shootout', I think the evidence of just how good the EVO is...speaks for itself with them putting it up against some of the best exotics there are...I don't see a Subee in this test...do you?

And just think this test didn't even include the MR Edition...

Remember to scroll down to the bottom when looking through all the tests to read page by page. Motor Trend didn't do a very good job of making it a flowing article and kinda broke it up.

http://motortrend.com/features/scene...int/index.html