STi > EVO
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From: Minnesoter
Originally Posted by nasti
Because once you start talking about mods or $ after stock, anything can be made to beat anything it is pointless.
Originally Posted by wingnut
A little $200 reflash from Al or TurboTrix would easily take care of any power "advantage" the STi has. Hands down the Evo is a better foundation. The powertrain mops the floor with the 2.5L boxer, the chassis and suspension sophistication in the Evo overrides the STi. They went the easy route for USDM, bigger is easier but not always better.
Subbie claims 300hp...they put down 233whp.
Mitsu claims 275hp... they put down 239whp.
Advantage? Mitsu.
Liar? Subbie.
*dawns flamesuit*
Originally Posted by twinevo
word.FQ-400 eats lambos for lunch. you think it will have any problems with a highly modified STi.
Originally Posted by Fireball
Subtle engine changes on an Evo can even more easily quickly overcome the STi's power, which doesn't even exist anyways!
Refer to the Motortrend article where the Evo put 239whp down, to the STi's 233whp.
And if they're making changes to the STi to improve the handling, what do you think happens when they make the SAME changes to the Evo?
Good luck Subbie fans!
Refer to the Motortrend article where the Evo put 239whp down, to the STi's 233whp.
And if they're making changes to the STi to improve the handling, what do you think happens when they make the SAME changes to the Evo?
Good luck Subbie fans!
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From: Tampa, Fl.
Originally Posted by nasti
___________Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR_________ Subaru Impreza WRX STi
street start, 5-50 mph, dry pavement 5.0 _______________4.7
street start, 5-50 mph, split-traction surfaces 5.4 _________4.7
roadholding 300-ft skidpad, g 0.92_____________________ 0.90
increasing slalom*, mph 60.9 _________________________60.4
decreasing slalom*, mph 57.2 ________________________59.4
lap time, sec/mph 75.20/81.4 _________________________75.05/81.5
autocross time, sec 52.8 _______________________________52.8
From: http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=2
street start, 5-50 mph, dry pavement 5.0 _______________4.7
street start, 5-50 mph, split-traction surfaces 5.4 _________4.7
roadholding 300-ft skidpad, g 0.92_____________________ 0.90
increasing slalom*, mph 60.9 _________________________60.4
decreasing slalom*, mph 57.2 ________________________59.4
lap time, sec/mph 75.20/81.4 _________________________75.05/81.5
autocross time, sec 52.8 _______________________________52.8
From: http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=2
Originally Posted by Kordwood
Subbie claims 300hp...they put down 233whp.
Mitsu claims 275hp... they put down 239whp.
True, but at what RPM? Thats the difference.
Mitsu claims 275hp... they put down 239whp.
True, but at what RPM? Thats the difference.
HUH!?!?
That's NOT a HP reading at a certian RPM, that's MAX POWER from a Dyno RUN!
RPM means nothing there.
Originally Posted by Kordwood
I'd rather have that horsepower at 3500 rpms than at 7000 rpms
Both power curves were pretty close.
In Europe and Japan both the Evo and STi are 2 liter motors. I think that Subaru cheated by putting a 2.5 liter boxer motor in the STi they brought to the States.
Hear that? Cheated!
Cheater cheater cheater! You cheat!
From now on I only want to see STi dyno charts in which the #1 spark plug wire has been pulled, because cheaters never win!
Hear that? Cheated!
Cheater cheater cheater! You cheat!
From now on I only want to see STi dyno charts in which the #1 spark plug wire has been pulled, because cheaters never win!
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From: Minnesoter
Originally Posted by wingless
MBC and ecu flashed EVO > STI on all tracks, plus if they kept the stock Advans I bet the EVO would have walked away like every other mag test.
Originally Posted by twinevo
the second article was written with one purpose in mind. To appease Suburu and their owners. They handicapped the Evo by providing it with new and inferior tires to our stock Advans and for the track run, they chose a less technical track where handling wasn't as big a factor.