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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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I have practically the same mods as you do. Minus the UK badge and I have a power enterprise air filter and greddy types bov. I happened to tempt a late model cobra a few months back and from a traffic role he was pulling on me (not hard) but he would have had me bad.

I honestly don't know what would happen if you were to do a launch though. I would imagine you would be ahead by a nose up until the 100mph mark and then it would be over.

However get the cams/injectors/cam gears and a street flash and you should own a STOCK Cobra...

btw - buy the alcohol injection and a retune and you'll own a '04 Z06 too...

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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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Not true at all. If you haven't heard of the rear being a problem then you probably haven't been around too many people who drag race them. The minute you get wheel spin with the IRS you run into problems. Wheel hop is a huge problem for these cars. Let's face it, if the rear wheel hops and spins freely at 6K RPM then grips when it drops then it ain't going to be pretty. I know a couple of people in the 10s with their Cobras and they go through half shafts like they're going out of fashion. Most hardcore drag racers switch to a solid rear end.
This is becasue ford and mustang owners dont know how to set up an IRS for drag. Well developed old technology always beats underdeveloped new technology. Perfect example.

As far as the cars go, Ive actually DRIVEN BOTH hard, so I can speak from experience. A mildly modded evo will take the cobra from a standing start. Obviously. Now, since I don't see too many people running the "quarter" on 45 mph surface steets with traffic (at least i hope i wouldnt see that)...I would have to say a stage one evo would beat it from a reasonably short stoplight run. Now, highway run? the evo would lose...not get killed, but lose.

03/04 cobras are beasts....even stock. They will dyno 370+ at the wheels stock...even though they are only rated at 390 flywheel. When I test drove one, the dealer even told me 390 was a joke for these cars. One drive and I knew he was right.
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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Just race and report back to us and tell us how it came out.. I mean what do you have to lose in a controlled area?
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 34Turbo
btw - buy the alcohol injection and a retune and you'll own a '04 Z06 too...
Honestly, who cares. Someone whos well off enough to own a brand new ZO6 could easily bolt on a $4k supercharger, run 550 rwhp on pump gas, and detroy 99.9% of us....thats assuming he/she in the vette actually gave a *&*% to even put the effort in.

Modified vs stock speculative thread racing is kinda pointless IMO.

Especially in this thread...since the chances of running into a stock 04 cobra is about as bad as running into a stock evo...
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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wow, some of you guys really need to read up on cobras before talking about them

it's almost embarassing....giving this forum (and imports in general) a bad name
I think most of us do knowabout 03 cobras. It's people like you who give the forum a bad rep. Granted some people may not know what they are talking about, be serious the mustang is a Ford its not a supercar. It's not high-tech. It just muscle. I personally dont think it is a very impressive car. Yes i have drove one before, so i dont want to hear anyone B*itch this is my opinon


Also to clear things up. Im talking about a race from a dig on the street (closed road of course) The race would be up to about 100mph. Maybe this will clear some up. Honestly who races past 100mph... Thats not 2 fun for me.
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 11:25 PM
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I think most of us do knowabout 03 cobras. It's people like you who give the forum a bad rep. Granted some people may not know what they are talking about, be serious the mustang is a Ford its not a supercar. It's not high-tech. It just muscle. I personally dont think it is a very impressive car. Yes i have drove one before, so i dont want to hear anyone B*itch this is my opinon


Also to clear things up. Im talking about a race from a dig on the street (closed road of course) The race would be up to about 100mph. Maybe this will clear some up. Honestly who races past 100mph... Thats not 2 fun for me.
Derek,
Given these conditions...id say its almost all up to the drivers involved. From an equipment standpoint, you prolly have an advantage.


I just noticed youre from Canton...I havnt met too many evo drivers from MI, just got mine a few months ago... PM me if you ever wanna shoot the *(&$ a little.
Old Feb 12, 2005 | 06:03 AM
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Derek,
Given these conditions...id say its almost all up to the drivers involved. From an equipment standpoint, you prolly have an advantage.


I just noticed youre from Canton...I havnt met too many evo drivers from MI, just got mine a few months ago... PM me if you ever wanna shoot the *(&$ a little.
lol you havent met many because everybody drives domestic ups there. I was up there visiting family and I drove my maxima up there and it felt wierd seeing nothing but domestic's and maybe 1 or 2 imports at any given time.
Old Feb 12, 2005 | 06:15 AM
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with equal drivers you would be ahead until 80mph, then they would pull the rest of the way, if you went up to 120+ you would be 5-8 cars behind, put sticky tires on a stock cobra and you would be ahead maybe to 30mph then bye bye.
Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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how much is a stock cobra selling for?
Old Feb 12, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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lol you havent met many because everybody drives domestic ups there. I was up there visiting family and I drove my maxima up there and it felt wierd seeing nothing but domestic's and maybe 1 or 2 imports at any given time.
I know, I was one of them. Had a 99 GT before my Evo. I'm strange, I like both import and domestic....in my eyes, if its fast, its cool.

New 03 and 04 cobras ran about 35k new when they were still on the lot. Verts were a little under 40 i think. A used 03 can be picked up in the mid to high 20's range.
Old Feb 12, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercenary3
I know, I was one of them. Had a 99 GT before my Evo. I'm strange, I like both import and domestic....in my eyes, if its fast, its cool.

New 03 and 04 cobras ran about 35k new when they were still on the lot. Verts were a little under 40 i think. A used 03 can be picked up in the mid to high 20's range.

I'm the same way. Who cares where it was built. I mean yes, the cars built by American workers are not put together as well due to American apathy, but for our purposes, they can all still go fast. I don't understand the hate between domestic and import owners. Many of us have owned both. I want a Cobra, I almost bought one, too. But I like AWD. I also REALLY want the new Z06 coming out.
Old Feb 12, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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ammmm you would not beat it. It's more like Rape it. With those mods you can really fck up a 2004 SVT Cobra..... I have almost the same modds that you have and I absolutelly own them. Now when they tunne their car, then it's kind of even "FROM A ROLL ONLY" off the line you will brutally rape them if you know how to launch....... The problem with Cobras they break down after you modd them. My friend had one and he freaking screwed up the engine the Piston and rods snaped inside the engine. Just crazy....
i got a vid of one with 600 hp and throwing a rod
Old Feb 12, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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post that $hit.

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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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Right here.

03 Cobra = Boom
Old Feb 12, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Right here.

03 Cobra = Boom
that's NOT an 03 Cobra.. because when it was shown on some LS1 forum about an 03 Cobra throwing a rod, it was proven to be a 99 Cobra with a supercharger..

the Rods in the 96-01 Cobra are powdered metal I beam rods, that are fine for about 400 rwhp, but above that your living on borrowed time..

the rods in the 03/04 Cobra are Manley 4340 H beam rods rated for 750 hp @ 8000 rpm..

Also, the differences in that Cobra in the video to a Terminator (internal Ford name for 03/04 Cobra) in order of apperance

#1 wrong rear spoiler (that's from a 99 or 01 Cobra) the 03 Cobra's spoiler is solid, that one you can see under it
#2 the head unit is 2 piece (seperate head unit and CD player) where the Terminator has a 6 disc in dash CD player that's integrated into the head unit..



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