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Old Jan 16, 2003 | 12:34 AM
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A Pontiac Sunfire is going to stay planted with 8" rims. The big question is the difference in handling between the US model and the JDM with active everything. I have a feeling that under full throttle application and tight cornering the US EVO will understeer like a pig. Common trait for front engine AWD platforms. If I was invited to Thailand by Mitsubishi to test the EVO8 would I say anything bad about the car?.....HELL NO! Best car I ever driven! Why trash my chances at a career in journalism. Obviously active differentials are important to the handling of an AWD. Otherwise Subaru and Mitsubishi would leave it off. Let the flames begin!
WOW... He has driven the Seven and said around the racetrack (no hairpins or real tight corners) he found it more predictable (wasn't a big fan of AYC on the VII) and as I mentioned very well balanced, he made the point to say it "drifted beautifully through the corners"

FYI I have read plenty of his stuff where he has trashed cars.

This all means nothing till WE drive the car (or a reputable mag tests it against the STi and a VII), I'm just trying to provide some insight from a reputable person that has actually driven the car. Flame me if you like but I bet a lot of people are interested in this stuff not conjecture

Good luck with the Sunfire
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Old Jan 16, 2003 | 02:20 AM
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Originally posted by tyndago
I have driven a Japan spec WRX STi with a 2.2 stroker kit. I was never really that impressed with the car. It was not that fast - I think it ran the quarter in mid 13 range. And for what it was and what was done to it - I was expecting more.
Which one? The Tommy Kaira job, or another parties?

I liked the bump in power that the TK gets, but it's a rather tame state of tune to say the least. They don't do too much to the engine management and other systems, which leaves you with an easy-to-maintain and reliable car with some good torque, but not quite as much performance for the money as you'd expect. And their suspension tuning is off, IMO. Their cars understeer like a splay-legged pig, and there's no real reason for that - even the standard STi suspension is better. The newest STi suspension setup is great, I anticipate much faster track times when testing by the mags gets even better with reworked rear geometry, changes to front geometry, and reworked links and stabilizer bars. Very stable around the track with progressive throttle-oversteer.

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Old Jan 17, 2003 | 02:18 PM
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I've just read the latest from CAR and Top Gear about the new STi (Jap Spec 280hp and 291 tq with DCCD). Both articles state that although they feel the new STi is better, it still is not as sharp and involving as the Evo VII or the bugeye STi Spec C/S202. No info on the Evo 8 though. They're prolly testing as I type this.
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Old Jan 17, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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I've just read the latest from CAR and Top Gear about the new STi (Jap Spec 280hp and 291 tq with DCCD).
I do not remember DCCD mentioned in a Car preview.
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Old Jan 17, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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This weeks auto week mag. has a 2 sentence thing about the evo 8.............."weekend warriors"....... at least the evo8 had the weekend to celibrate, until the 300hp. sti came out.

What the hell is that?????

the evo8 is suppose to do 60 in less than 5 seconds,,,,, this is more car than 85% of the people will be able to handle. Also the sti is going to be $35k,,,,, the evo is $29k,,,plus the evo is better looking than the sti.

I for one cant wait for sport compact car to test out this evo8,,,, they had rave reveiws of the srt-4 neon,,,, i cant wait to hear what they say about this evo8!

I also get motor trent, raod and track, car and driver, and Automoblie mag. I think one of these bunches is a sister company to the other because they both have the same exact cars in each test every issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I must say Evo magazine and Car magazine, both english mags. are just GREAT,,,,, big mags, supper glossy pages,,,, i just hate converting pounds to dollars and i still dont get this tyre and petrol thing??????
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Old Jan 17, 2003 | 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by Rafal

I do not remember DCCD mentioned in a Car preview.
I think the Preview you're talking about was in the CAR of the Year issue. The full review is in the issue after that. They both tested the JDM STi and were complaining that the Euro one is not the one to get. Top Gear mentioned that the DCCD will not be offered in the euro spec. They also hinted that importing a JDM would be better than to wait for the Euro one.
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Old Jan 17, 2003 | 05:32 PM
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I think the Preview you're talking about was in the CAR of the Year issue. The full review is in the issue after that. They both tested the JDM STi and were complaining that the Euro one is not the one to get. Top Gear mentioned that the DCCD will not be offered in the euro spec. They also hinted that importing a JDM would be better than to wait for the Euro one.
Do you have any scans from the mag?

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Old Jan 17, 2003 | 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by s4awd
I think the Preview you're talking about was in the CAR of the Year issue.
I am talking about the one from the latest CAR magazine. No word about DCCD. And DCCD is an option on JDM STi.
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Old Jan 18, 2003 | 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by Rafal

I am talking about the one from the latest CAR magazine. No word about DCCD. And DCCD is an option on JDM STi.
Europe doesn't get DCCD, but we do!!! YEAH! Finally, an American version of a car that's not on the bottom of the food chain of cars!!! Not to mention our STi's will have about 40 more hp, and gobs more torque (yeah, technical speak) than the British version!!!
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by Rafal

I am talking about the one from the latest CAR magazine. No word about DCCD. And DCCD is an option on JDM STi.
Then it was only Top Gear then.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by chronohunter
The magazine guys did go to Thailand for the world wide launch. The one I talked to said the car was so awesome that when his editor read the article he wrote when he got back...he told him to rewrite it because it was too positive! He said to take a couple of days off and rethink it! That was before the Sti was announced
Can you tell us now which magazine that was for?
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 05:54 PM
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I'd get an EVO8 over an STI just from looks alone if the biggest difference is 29hp and 24lbs torque. The look of the STI doesn't really thrill me. 300hp is no big deal and you'll easily be able to get that out of the EVO8 for less than the 6k price difference. As long as the core of the car is good I'll be putting an EVO in my garage and not worry about a relatively small difference in power that I can fix with mods. If the EVO is not what says it is....well that's a different story.

The only reason that the JDM STI (or any of the JDM cars for that matter) are rated at 280hp is because that is the legal limit in Japan. You don't honestly thing that you can get Skyline numbers with a Skylines girth with 280hp do you?!?! It's more like 350hp
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:02 PM
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Um, Hello?! The March 2k3 issue of Road & Track has a full riad test of the Evo, just the uninstrumented test in Thailand, but a full on road test. 0-60 in 5.1, 1/4 in 13.8 at 101.5 skidpad of .97 slalom of 68.7 60-0 in 117 ft. Compare those stats to the 350Z in the same issue, the Evo kicks its *** in every performance parameter! It also held it's own against the Z06 as far as handling and braking goes (stopped from 80 in 5 less feet!). A little tuning in the hp department and the evo'll be a Z06 killer.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by s4awd


Can you tell us now which magazine that was for?
It was C&D, remember how I got flamed for reporting over a month ago what the mags are just now writing about. Sport Compact Car also raved about how well the car did over the curbs and how nicely it drifts
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