View Poll Results: What are your EVO Intentions ?? ...Please read thread before you poll.
I'm Keeping it Stock!



69
13.45%
I'd like to think I'm Keeping it Stock!



35
6.82%
There's one or two things I Just Must Do!



189
36.84%
I'm going to Modify, Modify ...and Modify some more!



220
42.88%
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The "Keeping it Stock" Club
Originally Posted by jfh
Well I'm 50 and don't want to waste the finite years that remain. Anything worth doing is worth doing well! With routine 75-100 WHP gains from moderate bolt-on modifications that are all durable, reliable, and completely reversible, I see no reason to keep my Evo stock. I began modding my car in April '03, less than a month after purchasing it, warranty be damned. If you are satisfied with the stock performance level, all I can say is that you should never drive in one that has been modified. Once you feel the difference, you can no longer remain satisfied with stock performance levels.
TPetsch, like you I have a stock MR and intend on keeping my stock. But I plan to change out some parts that do not void my warranty, already confirmed with the district rep ....
Hi DaWorstPlaya, Thanks for your input but can you please elaborate on these Non-warrenty nullifying bits you plan to change out?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
TPetsch, like you I have a stock MR and intend on keeping my stock. But I plan to change out some parts that do not void my warranty, already confirmed with the district rep ....
Originally Posted by TurboWill
So far just a Dynoflash, and K&N. I want to do full exaust soon. Thats it. I want to keep it reliable.
Originally Posted by TPetsch
Hi DaWorstPlaya, Thanks for your input but can you please elaborate on these Non-warrenty nullifying bits you plan to change out?
Thanks.
Thanks.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...+warranty+info
I for one want to keep the 10 year warranty, as I'll probably spend enough money just maintaining the car .... I already have a set of stock EVO wheels with all seasons on my MR .... afterall this car is my daily driver ....
Last edited by DaWorstPlaya; Mar 1, 2005 at 02:55 PM.
Originally Posted by TPetsch
Hi, Macster.
I too consider the Stereo in the EVO a bit "Out of Balance" and there for understand why one may want to improve upon it ...Although (I'm) keeping that stock too. I'm looking more to gage opinions on mechanical/electrical system as it pertains to the ECU/Engine/suspension and related components.
I too consider the Stereo in the EVO a bit "Out of Balance" and there for understand why one may want to improve upon it ...Although (I'm) keeping that stock too. I'm looking more to gage opinions on mechanical/electrical system as it pertains to the ECU/Engine/suspension and related components.
One thing that definitely needs to be changed are the brake pads, they fade when they get hot, so those are going to be swapped out at my 5k service.
Performance is relative. I just want to go a little faster, have a low 13 sec street car thats dependable and I can die happy. I also plan on having the transferr case and tranny reworked by TRE when I retire in 07.
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Originally Posted by sonics36
i agree with u to but once u get use to the power u want more.even with a flash wright al.al runs ten's and i rember him saying he always gets use to the power.
i just did the tanabe downpipe and catback on mine, keeping the stock catalyst.
The 2 other things i will do is a vishnu Xflash, and a act clutch when thestock one is gone.I just want to be in the high to mid 12's, i thinkwith those mods on a 05 it s possible. I love my tanabe Hyper catback...super quiet and very good throttle response.
The 2 other things i will do is a vishnu Xflash, and a act clutch when thestock one is gone.I just want to be in the high to mid 12's, i thinkwith those mods on a 05 it s possible. I love my tanabe Hyper catback...super quiet and very good throttle response.
I'm curious to know,
can you sit in front of a big plate of fresh baked chocolate chip cookies without eating just one?
It's the same. Bottom line is there are consequences to every action. The key is, to use good judgement, and previous experience/ research into which can give you the most gain balanced with the least change in reliability.
Turbocars are very easy to make increased power. The first 25% increase is easy and doesn't come with major changes in reliability (IMHO) becasue of factory engineered "safety factors". The equivelent of having just one or two of those warm fresh baked cookies.
I've been down the road of keep modifying with my Dodge. But, after you more than double the HP the factory gave you, you do tend to decrease reliabilty a bit. But, then you just dial the boost down, and that reliability comes back.
can you sit in front of a big plate of fresh baked chocolate chip cookies without eating just one?
It's the same. Bottom line is there are consequences to every action. The key is, to use good judgement, and previous experience/ research into which can give you the most gain balanced with the least change in reliability.
Turbocars are very easy to make increased power. The first 25% increase is easy and doesn't come with major changes in reliability (IMHO) becasue of factory engineered "safety factors". The equivelent of having just one or two of those warm fresh baked cookies.
I've been down the road of keep modifying with my Dodge. But, after you more than double the HP the factory gave you, you do tend to decrease reliabilty a bit. But, then you just dial the boost down, and that reliability comes back.
Here is some data on the ECU EZ product which is in development and which will be perfect for those who wish to keep their car's stock like and have some power - yet be able to switch back to stock at a moments notice - also there is some info on the end user tunable version - both are not on target for release yet - but nice ideas and will prob get made
Ez-ECU and Custom ECU.
EcuTeK are shortly releasing two new software versions aimed at the Subaru enthusiast.
They are currently applicable for all ECU's supported in the ProECU Flash 2004 software. This is all 2004 ECU’s with electronic throttle control, principally the USDM Sti and Legacy GT.
Other US model ECU support will follow should these new packages prove popular and we feel that our US partners can provide the proper level of support.
Ez-ECU is a package which allows you to flash program a file into your own car. The ROM file will be supplied by the dealer who has supplied you with Ez-ECU and this file is "ROM keyed" so that only this customer can program it.
This means the file cannot be opened, edited, distributed or programmed into anyone else's car than the one intended by the supplying tuner.
Ez-ECU includes the very powerful and valuable DeltaDash logging package, and includes a training CD.
The advantage of this is that you can receive Ez-ECU from a tuner you know or know that produces a package suitable for your requirements. The tuner will then be able to e-mail you a ROM file which he is confident will be correct for your specification. Because Ez-ECU includes the powerful data logging software you will be able to carefully check that the new program is operating correctly. Should any adjustments be needed the tuner will be able to see from a log (which can be e-mailed to him) exactly what needs to be done and can modify the ROM file and mail it back to you.
You can of course save several ROM files for programming if using the car under different conditions.
You will also be supplied with the correct original ROM file for programming the ECU back to stock, therefore keeping the CIN, CVN and VIN numbers correct.
Because the ROM file is keyed to your software the tuner will be confident that he can send you his most valuable work without fear of it being programmed into unsuitable cars.
If, in the future, you want to makes some changes to the car or it requires a different program you can data log again and mail that to your tuner enabling him to provide a modified file suitable for your new modifications.
Programming a ROM file into you car takes approximately two minutes.
Ez-ECU is perfect for the customer who may be some distance away from his favourite tuning shop but wants the flexibility to make changes without having to understand the complexities of ECU mapping.
Posted by Ecutek"
Custom ECU is one major step further and allows editing of a ROM file prior to programming.
It is again supplied with DeltaDash and includes a training CD and manuals.
It also has the facility to program "ROM keyed" files which cannot be opened for editing.
This package is for the customer who would not normally visit a tuner and has the time and the ability to carry out their own mapping.
Currently you might be considering buying a competitor product such as a stand-alone programmable ECU or a programmable piggyback system. Our solution is easier to program, faster to map and offers more accurate long term control. With access to a huge range of maps and data. Programming a ROM file into you car takes approximately two minutes.
We would anticipate that the tuner supplying Custom ECU would perhaps want to supply a "ROM keyed" file and an editable file which is perhaps set up to be within 80% of your best performance ROM data. With these two files the customer can modify safe in the knowledge that he has something good to aim at. You would also be supplied the standard ROM file.
Of course the file that you have generated can be saved and distributed and with the internet being what it is, can be swapped and information exchanged across the country.
This software is incredibly powerful and allows an enormous amount of control and flexibility. It also requires a healthy knowledge and understanding of engine testing and mapping techniques.
We hope that with good support from our partners in the US and the knowledge base that will build up on the forums that this will enable the enthusiastic tuner to get the best from his car.
EcuTeK is still 100% committed to our dealer network and trade only business model.
With this in mind we will not be selling this directly either from the UK or from the North American office. We will only be supplying this to current EcuTeK partners who we feel have demonstrated to us over the last year or so that they can carry out good work and that they can offer real customer support for this.
We will be adding a new section to our forum for discussion about this product but we will not be accepting any support requests from customers directly. That is the job of the supplying dealer.
Software bugs, fixes yes, but "My boost is only 0.85 bar and in the boost map I put 2 bar" no.
Of course after a short while a lot of the support will be self generating after some of the knowledge gained by customers has been shared across the internet.
We have not finalised pricing or release dates but we are currently testing this and be assured that because it is a follow on product from our Pro-ECU tuning software that it is well proven and very powerful.
We will be posting up some map screen shots and more information shortly.
Ez-ECU and Custom ECU.
EcuTeK are shortly releasing two new software versions aimed at the Subaru enthusiast.
They are currently applicable for all ECU's supported in the ProECU Flash 2004 software. This is all 2004 ECU’s with electronic throttle control, principally the USDM Sti and Legacy GT.
Other US model ECU support will follow should these new packages prove popular and we feel that our US partners can provide the proper level of support.
Ez-ECU is a package which allows you to flash program a file into your own car. The ROM file will be supplied by the dealer who has supplied you with Ez-ECU and this file is "ROM keyed" so that only this customer can program it.
This means the file cannot be opened, edited, distributed or programmed into anyone else's car than the one intended by the supplying tuner.
Ez-ECU includes the very powerful and valuable DeltaDash logging package, and includes a training CD.
The advantage of this is that you can receive Ez-ECU from a tuner you know or know that produces a package suitable for your requirements. The tuner will then be able to e-mail you a ROM file which he is confident will be correct for your specification. Because Ez-ECU includes the powerful data logging software you will be able to carefully check that the new program is operating correctly. Should any adjustments be needed the tuner will be able to see from a log (which can be e-mailed to him) exactly what needs to be done and can modify the ROM file and mail it back to you.
You can of course save several ROM files for programming if using the car under different conditions.
You will also be supplied with the correct original ROM file for programming the ECU back to stock, therefore keeping the CIN, CVN and VIN numbers correct.
Because the ROM file is keyed to your software the tuner will be confident that he can send you his most valuable work without fear of it being programmed into unsuitable cars.
If, in the future, you want to makes some changes to the car or it requires a different program you can data log again and mail that to your tuner enabling him to provide a modified file suitable for your new modifications.
Programming a ROM file into you car takes approximately two minutes.
Ez-ECU is perfect for the customer who may be some distance away from his favourite tuning shop but wants the flexibility to make changes without having to understand the complexities of ECU mapping.
Posted by Ecutek"
Custom ECU is one major step further and allows editing of a ROM file prior to programming.
It is again supplied with DeltaDash and includes a training CD and manuals.
It also has the facility to program "ROM keyed" files which cannot be opened for editing.
This package is for the customer who would not normally visit a tuner and has the time and the ability to carry out their own mapping.
Currently you might be considering buying a competitor product such as a stand-alone programmable ECU or a programmable piggyback system. Our solution is easier to program, faster to map and offers more accurate long term control. With access to a huge range of maps and data. Programming a ROM file into you car takes approximately two minutes.
We would anticipate that the tuner supplying Custom ECU would perhaps want to supply a "ROM keyed" file and an editable file which is perhaps set up to be within 80% of your best performance ROM data. With these two files the customer can modify safe in the knowledge that he has something good to aim at. You would also be supplied the standard ROM file.
Of course the file that you have generated can be saved and distributed and with the internet being what it is, can be swapped and information exchanged across the country.
This software is incredibly powerful and allows an enormous amount of control and flexibility. It also requires a healthy knowledge and understanding of engine testing and mapping techniques.
We hope that with good support from our partners in the US and the knowledge base that will build up on the forums that this will enable the enthusiastic tuner to get the best from his car.
EcuTeK is still 100% committed to our dealer network and trade only business model.
With this in mind we will not be selling this directly either from the UK or from the North American office. We will only be supplying this to current EcuTeK partners who we feel have demonstrated to us over the last year or so that they can carry out good work and that they can offer real customer support for this.
We will be adding a new section to our forum for discussion about this product but we will not be accepting any support requests from customers directly. That is the job of the supplying dealer.
Software bugs, fixes yes, but "My boost is only 0.85 bar and in the boost map I put 2 bar" no.
Of course after a short while a lot of the support will be self generating after some of the knowledge gained by customers has been shared across the internet.
We have not finalised pricing or release dates but we are currently testing this and be assured that because it is a follow on product from our Pro-ECU tuning software that it is well proven and very powerful.
We will be posting up some map screen shots and more information shortly.

