Sorry guys, I gotta disagree.

Those are excellent numbers for your car on a Mustang dyno. Keep in mind the stock 03-04 EVO's only make about 220whp stock on the dyno, with your modifications to make 262/270 without cams is very impressive. Most SAFC tuned EVO's with HKS 264 or 272 cams don't make more than ~280 on our dyno and less torque.

My hats off to Mark, those are great numbers!

BTW, what gas are you tuned on, our numbers are based off Cali 91 octane, if you're running 92-93 then those numbers are right in line (still a bit high) for what you should expect.

Cheers,

Gary
Gruppe-S

 

hmmmm seems kinda odd to me, maybe it was the dyno, mark from
TT definately knows what he's doing. maybe he can offer some input on what he thinks.

 

As a side note, on 91 octane, even with the AEM EMS, HKS 272 cams, and a similar setup, it is difficult to break 300whp on the Mustangdyne dyno on a safe tune. On the EVO's there's generally a 25whp difference between the Mustangdyne and an AWD dynojet.

Cheers,

Gary
Gruppe-S

 

agreed

 

Looking back again at your first post it looks like Mark did do his job... his tuning got you 30hp. I originally misread and thought the first #s were stock. It would be interesting to see what #s you put down at the track... that would really tell you where you stand.

 

krafty, I'm not sure why you're not happy. All you've got is an intake, exhaust and a MBC. What were you expecting? What boost were you running? The rest of your mods are going to do little for HP and TQ. You've got 28 additional HP. You must also look at your graph. Is it smoother? Are you making Boost sooner? Where in the rev range does your TQ start to drop off? It's not just HP to Hp.

 

What boost are you running?

 

agreed and he doesn't know what boost he's running because the defi d is known to be inaccurate. i'd say the only way to be really sure is to get a zeitronix with a "bar" boost sensor.

for just exhaust, not knowing boost and upper ic piping which people have contended to not add hp, you're in the right spot... turbo back gets you 30hp. iunno how much a flash would have to do with that, i'd say none...

if you wanna see more gains from your safc you gotta get fuel pump and injectors so you can tune for timing.

 

Im not happy because EVO's with less mods were making 30+ HP on the same dyno with Marks tune. Mark even said my baseline was very low. I not complaining about Mark's tune. I concerned about my baseline dyno being so low

 

You, please stay outtta my thread.. you don't even own an evo and have been posting all over just to raise your post count.

 

Running around 20.5- 21 PSI

 

That what Mark was saying at first, but then to watch further and see I was the lowest baseline (and lowest numbers after tune).. very upseting. Once again not knocking Mark at all, but my baseline should have been the baseline of an stock EVO.

 

Im running a fuel pump, no need for injectors and I running 2 boost gauges.

 

krafty, as far as your baseline being low, I can tell you from experience that Evo's seem to be all over the place as far as numbers go. My car was on the low side when it was stock. I've seen as much as 25 HP stock to stock difference.

Not trying to tell you what to do, but just worry about your car. As you add mods keep track of the numbers. Build a file so that you can reference your numbers as you continue down whatever path your traveling. Most of all, have a plan. Each part you add should take you one step closer to your goal. It is sooooo easy to get caught up in the "next big thing" mentality.

Just my $.02.

 

Hmmm...