What did you put down? APR? Monthly payment?
Originally Posted by ewoevo
03 EVO VIII (March 03)
1. $1900
2. 6% (refinanced for 3.5% last year)
3. $30,500
4. $515 (now $460)
5. Not sure
1. $1900
2. 6% (refinanced for 3.5% last year)
3. $30,500
4. $515 (now $460)
5. Not sure
Like if you had a 20,000 loan and refinanced the APR and got it down to 17,000 would you be paying 3,000 to make up the difference?
i tried refinancign my last car through my credit union and they said I'd have to make up the difference. Then I spoke to some people who say they refinanced but didnt haev to make up the difference on the savings.
Originally Posted by stormhalter
When you erfinance, do you have to make up any difference on the amount of the loan owed and what it lowers down to?
Like if you had a 20,000 loan and refinanced the APR and got it down to 17,000 would you be paying 3,000 to make up the difference?
i tried refinancign my last car through my credit union and they said I'd have to make up the difference. Then I spoke to some people who say they refinanced but didnt haev to make up the difference on the savings.
Like if you had a 20,000 loan and refinanced the APR and got it down to 17,000 would you be paying 3,000 to make up the difference?
i tried refinancign my last car through my credit union and they said I'd have to make up the difference. Then I spoke to some people who say they refinanced but didnt haev to make up the difference on the savings.
In your case, you financed a certain amount, let's say $15000 (purchase price) at 10%, which comes out to $318.71/month. The moment the financing began, the total future amount of the loan became $19,122.60. In 1 year of time, you will have paid $3,824.52, but only $2,434.08 to principal. The remaining $1,390.44 will have gone straight to the bank as interest. This means you would still owe $12,565.92. If at this point, you are able to get financing for 5%, you would pay off that $12,565.92 and have it financed at 5%, but wait a minute, you've already paid for your car for 12 months, so how long do you refinance it? Do you do 5 years again, or do you keep it 5 years by doing the remaining amount for 4 years? I'll assume you refinance the payoff at 5% for 4 more years. This lowers your payment from $318.71 to $289.38 (not great) and makes your total at the end $13,890.24 for the new 4-year loan. Adding in that first year puts you at a grand total of $17,714.76, which is a savings of $1400 total. This isn't bad, but rarely can you refi for half the original rate, and the longer you go past 1 year, the less useful it becomes.
This means that you no longer owe just the price of your car, but also the interest. If you refinance, then you owe whatever the "payoff" price is to the lender. This amount can be found out by asking your bank, or in my case, I just go to the website and look at my daily payoff amount (it goes up a little daily then goes down after each monthly payment). Upon refinancing, you would be taking this amount
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
There is no "difference" to speak of. Refinancing just means putting your loan amount at a new interest rate (lower). It only really helps if you have a really high rate and are able to get a much lower rate fairly early in the loan, because you pay most of the interest up front.
In your case, you financed a certain amount, let's say $15000 (purchase price) at 10%, which comes out to $318.71/month. The moment the financing began, the total future amount of the loan became $19,122.60. In 1 year of time, you will have paid $3,824.52, but only $2,434.08 to principal. The remaining $1,390.44 will have gone straight to the bank as interest. This means you would still owe $12,565.92. If at this point, you are able to get financing for 5%, you would pay off that $12,565.92 and have it financed at 5%, but wait a minute, you've already paid for your car for 12 months, so how long do you refinance it? Do you do 5 years again, or do you keep it 5 years by doing the remaining amount for 4 years? I'll assume you refinance the payoff at 5% for 4 more years. This lowers your payment from $318.71 to $289.38 (not great) and makes your total at the end $13,890.24 for the new 4-year loan. Adding in that first year puts you at a grand total of $17,714.76, which is a savings of $1400 total. This isn't bad, but rarely can you refi for half the original rate, and the longer you go past 1 year, the less useful it becomes.
This means that you no longer owe just the price of your car, but also the interest. If you refinance, then you owe whatever the "payoff" price is to the lender. This amount can be found out by asking your bank, or in my case, I just go to the website and look at my daily payoff amount (it goes up a little daily then goes down after each monthly payment). Upon refinancing, you would be taking this amount
In your case, you financed a certain amount, let's say $15000 (purchase price) at 10%, which comes out to $318.71/month. The moment the financing began, the total future amount of the loan became $19,122.60. In 1 year of time, you will have paid $3,824.52, but only $2,434.08 to principal. The remaining $1,390.44 will have gone straight to the bank as interest. This means you would still owe $12,565.92. If at this point, you are able to get financing for 5%, you would pay off that $12,565.92 and have it financed at 5%, but wait a minute, you've already paid for your car for 12 months, so how long do you refinance it? Do you do 5 years again, or do you keep it 5 years by doing the remaining amount for 4 years? I'll assume you refinance the payoff at 5% for 4 more years. This lowers your payment from $318.71 to $289.38 (not great) and makes your total at the end $13,890.24 for the new 4-year loan. Adding in that first year puts you at a grand total of $17,714.76, which is a savings of $1400 total. This isn't bad, but rarely can you refi for half the original rate, and the longer you go past 1 year, the less useful it becomes.
This means that you no longer owe just the price of your car, but also the interest. If you refinance, then you owe whatever the "payoff" price is to the lender. This amount can be found out by asking your bank, or in my case, I just go to the website and look at my daily payoff amount (it goes up a little daily then goes down after each monthly payment). Upon refinancing, you would be taking this amount
At the end of the day, it's of little consequence what other people are paying.
Know your facts & figures before you start negotiating (use www.edmunds.com or similar) and see where the deal comes out.......you can either afford it, or you can't. Don't end up badly in debt for a rapidly depreciating "asset".
Know your facts & figures before you start negotiating (use www.edmunds.com or similar) and see where the deal comes out.......you can either afford it, or you can't. Don't end up badly in debt for a rapidly depreciating "asset".
If you know what other people are paying, you can confront the guy and say, "I have good credit, I want to buy this car. My friend bought his for XX,XXX dollars, and I will buy it from you if you match that price."
Westside: That's why I'm doing this.
MTM. A mitsubishi is worth it to me. I won't put myself into debt though. I've calculated possible payments and would still have a G left over every month, or a little under a G after all my bills. Rent, Car, Insurance, Phone.
Evoland: I didn't know you can go up to 84 months. Holy smokes. How did you pull that off? Is it easier to get longer finance options than shorter. Or is it harder to get 84 months?
MTM. A mitsubishi is worth it to me. I won't put myself into debt though. I've calculated possible payments and would still have a G left over every month, or a little under a G after all my bills. Rent, Car, Insurance, Phone.
Evoland: I didn't know you can go up to 84 months. Holy smokes. How did you pull that off? Is it easier to get longer finance options than shorter. Or is it harder to get 84 months?
Originally Posted by stormhalter
Westside: That's why I'm doing this.
MTM. A mitsubishi is worth it to me. I won't put myself into debt though. I've calculated possible payments and would still have a G left over every month, or a little under a G after all my bills. Rent, Car, Insurance, Phone.
Evoland: I didn't know you can go up to 84 months. Holy smokes. How did you pull that off? Is it easier to get longer finance options than shorter. Or is it harder to get 84 months?
MTM. A mitsubishi is worth it to me. I won't put myself into debt though. I've calculated possible payments and would still have a G left over every month, or a little under a G after all my bills. Rent, Car, Insurance, Phone.
Evoland: I didn't know you can go up to 84 months. Holy smokes. How did you pull that off? Is it easier to get longer finance options than shorter. Or is it harder to get 84 months?
Originally Posted by rlazer5000
Just out of curiousity, how did u end up spending $45K on ur EVO? Also, i think ur interest rate is off by a lot, unless they really screwed u over.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
So, somehow you can afford $1250/month car payments with 40k in debt that is too much for your income, yet you put on a lot of mods that make the car less reliable and more prone to breaking (not to mention you think 25psi is ok)? With bad credit, a car loan on a crashed car still to pay, tons of debt, a baby on the way, and mods, I foresee a bankruptcy.
i will allow you to think you know alot about car financing but you know everything. at any time i can fax you copies of the loan docs to show you my #'s are dead nuts correct. also keep in mind i'm not complaining about my car pymts. they fit within the budget alotted. my budget allows for a single car pymt of $1500/month not including insurance.
Originally Posted by housedj
highly unlikely that a BK is in the picture. besides, my wife makes 3x more than i do so everything does get paid on time including the $960/month for rent on our apt, & the $5k in baby stuff she has purchased with cash in the last 3 months. not only that, we are looking at $400-500k homes in Miami, FL & even with all the debt, we still qualify for a home up to $750k.
i will allow you to think you know alot about car financing but you know everything. at any time i can fax you copies of the loan docs to show you my #'s are dead nuts correct. also keep in mind i'm not complaining about my car pymts. they fit within the budget alotted. my budget allows for a single car pymt of $1500/month not including insurance.
i will allow you to think you know alot about car financing but you know everything. at any time i can fax you copies of the loan docs to show you my #'s are dead nuts correct. also keep in mind i'm not complaining about my car pymts. they fit within the budget alotted. my budget allows for a single car pymt of $1500/month not including insurance.
Originally Posted by wEstSidE
What you are saying is making less sense with every post. Don't you have other assets to protect?
all of my valuable assets are liquid.
Last edited by housedj; Apr 16, 2005 at 01:32 PM. Reason: ...


