Need evo 7 help
Originally Posted by Mivo
oh it is? y does it say he is from NY? and hey zmarko y dont u get a mitsu car before u come on here and start dissin people... 

Originally Posted by wEstSidE
A Geo Metro with a swap and turbo could actually be quick...Maybe toss in a good 1 liter bike engine and use a turbo on it and get 170+ hp.
Originally Posted by zmarko
Yes subtle (to me at least). Feel free to list all the differences, cause to me they look almost identical (sans a few things here and there). I'm here to learn, so if you could list them, I'd appreciate it. 
there are thousands of evo8's...only a few 7's.They stand out.
Only recently u all got ACD/AYC(i think)..and the japan spec evo's are more powerful than the USDM evo 8's
also..on my jdm evo 7 i have no boost cut.
and the bumpers,bonnet are different...they come with nicer rims IMO.
I must admit...the differences arent huge...
but I'd take a 7 over an 8 anyday......and not just because I own one. The look alone is enough
We don't have AYC, but BFG, it's not that important. Ever heard the saying, "people want what they can't have?" People like rare stuff. I actually highly prefer the IX's look to all the other Evos on the CT9A chassis, I think they got the dimensions and everything just right. I think the VII also came with ALS built in, but not turned on (yes, I know it's not a big deal).
Last edited by mike69; Apr 15, 2005 at 08:07 PM.
also you guys get retarded problems like this
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=133630
and many other recalls...
also..IMO the 7 gearbox and transfer case are much better. Dont know if the 7 and 8 use the same ones.... just guessing here.
but there's only one person here who i know damaged a transfer case.
You guys also had a huge problem with the stock evo 8 clutch. Slipping after only a few hundred miles etc.
These are also some reasons why I could see someone in the US trying to get their hands on a 7
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=133630
and many other recalls...
also..IMO the 7 gearbox and transfer case are much better. Dont know if the 7 and 8 use the same ones.... just guessing here.
but there's only one person here who i know damaged a transfer case.
You guys also had a huge problem with the stock evo 8 clutch. Slipping after only a few hundred miles etc.
These are also some reasons why I could see someone in the US trying to get their hands on a 7
Originally Posted by 11secEVO7
also you guys get retarded problems like this
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=133630
and many other recalls...
also..IMO the 7 gearbox and transfer case are much better. Dont know if the 7 and 8 use the same ones.... just guessing here.
but there's only one person here who i know damaged a transfer case.
You guys also had a huge problem with the stock evo 8 clutch. Slipping after only a few hundred miles etc.
These are also some reasons why I could see someone in the US trying to get their hands on a 7
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=133630
and many other recalls...
also..IMO the 7 gearbox and transfer case are much better. Dont know if the 7 and 8 use the same ones.... just guessing here.
but there's only one person here who i know damaged a transfer case.
You guys also had a huge problem with the stock evo 8 clutch. Slipping after only a few hundred miles etc.
These are also some reasons why I could see someone in the US trying to get their hands on a 7
So much of this "7 is better than 8" "8 is better than 7" is such a pissing contest. The issue with the clutch is a moot point - it's all about how you drive. I have over 300whp and I've been on the stock clutch - 30K, and still going strong. The USDM 8 (the base and RS models) uses the Evo7's 5 spd, so I don't see what the big deal is here.
Honestly, unless you're really after the AYC, there's no point in going through EI. It's easier, safer, and generally just a better idea to buy an Evo8 from the dealerships, and outfit with Evo7 body parts. That the Evo7 engine is "better" than the USDM 8 is a poor reason in and of itself - most of the "detuning" was done via the ECU, and that is easily remedied with a basic mail-in flash from a couple of the vendors on this forum.
I mean, if you really want the 7, nobody is going to stop you, but it seems that most of us here just don't think it's a very good idea.
Honestly, unless you're really after the AYC, there's no point in going through EI. It's easier, safer, and generally just a better idea to buy an Evo8 from the dealerships, and outfit with Evo7 body parts. That the Evo7 engine is "better" than the USDM 8 is a poor reason in and of itself - most of the "detuning" was done via the ECU, and that is easily remedied with a basic mail-in flash from a couple of the vendors on this forum.
I mean, if you really want the 7, nobody is going to stop you, but it seems that most of us here just don't think it's a very good idea.
Originally Posted by Mivo
ok evo 7 and evo 8 differences
evo 7 has different bumpers,hood, spoiler,and tails.
evo 7 has a better motor because the evo 8s have been watered down for the USA
evo 7 isnt something you can just pick up at a dealership
evo 7 wont be driven like evo 8s are
great for car show purpose
and finally whats the great risk? EI ran into some problems at the begining but if you take your time and do research you will see they have a great importing business now. hey does anyone know of frank is on this forum? cuz he sent me an email but my email isnt workin... hey cubanevo can u email frank that and tell him to pm me here or reach me on aim? thanks a ton!
evo 7 has different bumpers,hood, spoiler,and tails.
evo 7 has a better motor because the evo 8s have been watered down for the USA
evo 7 isnt something you can just pick up at a dealership
evo 7 wont be driven like evo 8s are
great for car show purpose
and finally whats the great risk? EI ran into some problems at the begining but if you take your time and do research you will see they have a great importing business now. hey does anyone know of frank is on this forum? cuz he sent me an email but my email isnt workin... hey cubanevo can u email frank that and tell him to pm me here or reach me on aim? thanks a ton!

You can change every aspect of your engine and you won't throw a CEL unless something is broke

Since no one in US has driven an AYC/ACD combo car (other than the FEW lucky souls) .. you can yab all you want about not wanting electronics to work your car for you ..
CELM, why don't you bring the car to an autoX one day and just show them what it can do .. just for fun ??
stock v stock And FYI, AYC/ACD doesn't need much servicing.. just regular oil and ATF changes
EVO 7 Petition
I keep in contact with the people who were working on the petition for EI and below are the latest updates I gor from them.
"We have given up on the idea of having legal Evos though the DOT. Mitsubishi made it nearly impossible for us. With them filing things as confidential it would take so long and cost so much to fight it, just not worth it.
Adam says what he wants to. Often not what is correct."
"
I really thought this was going to work when we started on it. Years and years ago, before there was any thought of Mitsubishi bringing the car in, we spoke to Kim Custer - marketing guy at Mitsubishi about the car. He called Mitsubishi and asked about small volume imports. Then it was Ralliart UK that became Extreme Autos that was interested. Then Adam picked it up after that.
When I heard Mitsubishi was bringing the car, I thought it to be a slam dunk. They fought it hard, and the way the DOT works - its the burden of proof on the RI. Makes life difficult when Mitsubishi is making things up. Like the interior components are different, side sills are different. They drew it out so long, it made it impossible to do anything with what we had.
I am sorry for all the owners. I did my best, but its hard with a small company vs a major manufacturer."
"We have given up on the idea of having legal Evos though the DOT. Mitsubishi made it nearly impossible for us. With them filing things as confidential it would take so long and cost so much to fight it, just not worth it.
Adam says what he wants to. Often not what is correct."
"
I really thought this was going to work when we started on it. Years and years ago, before there was any thought of Mitsubishi bringing the car in, we spoke to Kim Custer - marketing guy at Mitsubishi about the car. He called Mitsubishi and asked about small volume imports. Then it was Ralliart UK that became Extreme Autos that was interested. Then Adam picked it up after that.
When I heard Mitsubishi was bringing the car, I thought it to be a slam dunk. They fought it hard, and the way the DOT works - its the burden of proof on the RI. Makes life difficult when Mitsubishi is making things up. Like the interior components are different, side sills are different. They drew it out so long, it made it impossible to do anything with what we had.
I am sorry for all the owners. I did my best, but its hard with a small company vs a major manufacturer."
Originally Posted by mitsuevo007
I keep in contact with the people who were working on the petition for EI and below are the latest updates I gor from them.
"We have given up on the idea of having legal Evos though the DOT. Mitsubishi made it nearly impossible for us. With them filing things as confidential it would take so long and cost so much to fight it, just not worth it.
Adam says what he wants to. Often not what is correct."
"
I really thought this was going to work when we started on it. Years and years ago, before there was any thought of Mitsubishi bringing the car in, we spoke to Kim Custer - marketing guy at Mitsubishi about the car. He called Mitsubishi and asked about small volume imports. Then it was Ralliart UK that became Extreme Autos that was interested. Then Adam picked it up after that.
When I heard Mitsubishi was bringing the car, I thought it to be a slam dunk. They fought it hard, and the way the DOT works - its the burden of proof on the RI. Makes life difficult when Mitsubishi is making things up. Like the interior components are different, side sills are different. They drew it out so long, it made it impossible to do anything with what we had.
I am sorry for all the owners. I did my best, but its hard with a small company vs a major manufacturer."
"We have given up on the idea of having legal Evos though the DOT. Mitsubishi made it nearly impossible for us. With them filing things as confidential it would take so long and cost so much to fight it, just not worth it.
Adam says what he wants to. Often not what is correct."
"
I really thought this was going to work when we started on it. Years and years ago, before there was any thought of Mitsubishi bringing the car in, we spoke to Kim Custer - marketing guy at Mitsubishi about the car. He called Mitsubishi and asked about small volume imports. Then it was Ralliart UK that became Extreme Autos that was interested. Then Adam picked it up after that.
When I heard Mitsubishi was bringing the car, I thought it to be a slam dunk. They fought it hard, and the way the DOT works - its the burden of proof on the RI. Makes life difficult when Mitsubishi is making things up. Like the interior components are different, side sills are different. They drew it out so long, it made it impossible to do anything with what we had.
I am sorry for all the owners. I did my best, but its hard with a small company vs a major manufacturer."
Owned.
Originally Posted by Mivo
most people that get evos even take the ayc off.
2 types of people take out the AYC .. people who go for outright power and straight line drag.. known to break when going for 1/4 mile records
the other are those who bought the car without AYC (ie the RS)
Oh yea .. there's the 3rd type .. OLD SCHOOL who doesn't like to adapt to electronics driving your car for you ..
Remember, people who complained about the AYC are those who have been racing for a while, and they are unwilling to unlearn how to drive to accomodate the electronics..The AYC is also different from the 4 generations that had it .. the 4-5-6 are not as strong as the 7 and the 8-9 are better and allows more control over the torque split
Please, really .. if MMC really decide to release the fullup version of the 9 (ACD/SAYC) in US, take it to an autocross, or take a corner at speed (safely of course !
) ..


