Ohio race sum up - Evos beat the STI's - big time !
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Actually - I think the advantage has more to do with the nature of the basic design and lay out of the engine and turbo
i have heard that the motor isn't as bulletproof as the Evo's - there were a few blown motor stories on NASIOC that are partly what scared me away from the STi - so is that the "basic design" issue you're referring to?
i think Subie would have been better off bringing the 2.0 motor here, but.....
Good Job guys. Just give me a couple more months and I should be tailin right behind yall 
OH AND! 10.9 on a STOCK TURBO is ABSOLUTLY RIDUCLOUS I dont know any other car that can do that. SOMEBODY please tell me if there is another car that can do that in the same class as the evo.
OH AND! 10.9 on a STOCK TURBO is ABSOLUTLY RIDUCLOUS I dont know any other car that can do that. SOMEBODY please tell me if there is another car that can do that in the same class as the evo.
Great Job Al 10.18 is so close to the 9's. If you added some NOS you would be there for sure.
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for Curt Brown wow a 10.9 on stock turbo is incredible! Make's you think who needs a turbo upgrade if my Evo was that fast I would not know what to do.
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for Curt Brown wow a 10.9 on stock turbo is incredible! Make's you think who needs a turbo upgrade if my Evo was that fast I would not know what to do.
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Originally Posted by humpevo311
The parts are there for STI's and they have an inherently torque building motor.. and 1/4 more displacement. Please no excuses... so many fans of WRC also turned to the evo for their street car since it still has a 2.0 not like the STI with its 2.5.
i'm just wondering, not trying to pick sides or make excuses. afterall, i drive an Evo and would rather see the Evo win the battle!!
Originally Posted by dsci4
how so? is the STi any harder to add a bigger turbo, intake/exhaust, or ECU programming to??? space limited or something?
i have heard that the motor isn't as bulletproof as the Evo's - there were a few blown motor stories on NASIOC that are partly what scared me away from the STi - so is that the "basic design" issue you're referring to?
i think Subie would have been better off bringing the 2.0 motor here, but.....
i have heard that the motor isn't as bulletproof as the Evo's - there were a few blown motor stories on NASIOC that are partly what scared me away from the STi - so is that the "basic design" issue you're referring to?
i think Subie would have been better off bringing the 2.0 motor here, but.....
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Originally Posted by rebelzx
Subarus are definitely far behind because of the layout of the engine. Long headers, inefficent intake manifold, and top mount intercooler all play big parts in making power. Subaru owners have to work around all of these deficiencies to make big power. It's just much easier to make power in evos with a short header, factory front mount intercooler routing, and a very high flowing head and intake.
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Originally Posted by rebelzx
Subarus are definitely far behind because of the layout of the engine. Long headers, inefficent intake manifold, and top mount intercooler all play big parts in making power. Subaru owners have to work around all of these deficiencies to make big power. It's just much easier to make power in evos with a short header, factory front mount intercooler routing, and a very high flowing head and intake.
man, i wish i wasn't travelling for work right now.....
i'd go drive the MR around for a bit if i was home! 
Originally Posted by Evofurry
who are you the spokesperson for Subaru?? they suck, let it go.
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Originally Posted by Evofurry
who are you the spokesperson for Subaru?? they suck, let it go.
sharing info is good and pretty much why we have a forum.
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Originally Posted by rebelzx
Subarus are definitely far behind because of the layout of the engine. Long headers, inefficent intake manifold, and top mount intercooler all play big parts in making power. Subaru owners have to work around all of these deficiencies to make big power. It's just much easier to make power in evos with a short header, factory front mount intercooler routing, and a very high flowing head and intake.
yeah