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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 07:39 AM
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Pit Pass??!! No thankyou....
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 07:57 AM
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Can one of you guys give me a username and password so I can track my own Evo?

https://rp.mmsa.com/
NO!
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 08:03 AM
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Mark F, Fireball, et al: Can any of you give a listing of the 27 points mentioned? And is the oil change just an oil change or is a filter required too (I hope so)?
The technicians performing the Pit Pass service went to special training just for that service (rather unique for Mitsu). The 27 points include things like suspension and brake inspections and that sort of thing. It is quite thorough. I saw the list but I don't have a copy so we'll have to wait for the brochures on Pit Pass to be distributed.

The whole point of Pit Pass is to ensure that people don't void their warranty by being lazy and on a car like this, I think it is well worthwhile. I don't think the average buyer appreciates how serious Mitsubishi is about having this car properly maintained.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 08:26 AM
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As regards to the aggenda page where it says "Lancer Evolution Customers", that refers to a discussion during the class of the Evo's expected customer demographics - who the target buyer for this car is (this is a sales training brochure remember, not for customers).
Mark....out of curiosity, who does Mitsu project the target audience to be for the Evo?

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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 08:40 AM
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The whole point of Pit Pass is to ensure that people don't void their warranty by being lazy and on a car like this, I think it is well worthwhile. I don't think the average buyer appreciates how serious Mitsubishi is about having this car properly maintained.
My concern (aside from the cost of the Pit Pass being up-front rather than being spread out over 2-3 years) is that Mitsubishi is going to "force" the pit pass on people by otherwise denying warranty service/repairs. While the vast majority of car buyers are lazy and/or lacking the knowledge to do their own maintenence, many of us aren't. Personally, I'm vastly more thorough on checking and repairing/replacing things than I would be if I just drove my car for 3500 miles without thinking about it. I just don't want to see Mitsubishi playing games and punishing owners who don't mind doing their own work.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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My concern (aside from the cost of the Pit Pass being up-front rather than being spread out over 2-3 years) is that Mitsubishi is going to "force" the pit pass on people by otherwise denying warranty service/repairs. While the vast majority of car buyers are lazy and/or lacking the knowledge to do their own maintenence, many of us aren't. Personally, I'm vastly more thorough on checking and repairing/replacing things than I would be if I just drove my car for 3500 miles without thinking about it. I just don't want to see Mitsubishi playing games and punishing owners who don't mind doing their own work.
You can do your own work but you had better be ready to provide documentation if necessary.

It is Mitsubishi's warranty after all, and they can impose any qualifications and restrictions they want on it since they are the ones footing the bill.

Pit Pass certainly has its advantages. Since it can be purchased up front the cost can be rolled into the financing. For a buyer who is pushing their budget anyway to get into this car having it paid up front means they won't have to say "damn, I have to wait until next months paycheck to take my car in for service" (and yes, this person does exist). From a resale perspective being able to show a prospective buyer that you've had Pit Pass service done is going to be much stronger than a stack of Jiffy Lube reciepts. And of course from a warranty perspective Pit Pass eliminates much potential confusion and hassle.

Now whether or not those advantages are going to translate into real value for a buyer is going to depend on the price point and the specifics of the Pit Pass, neither of which have been released yet. In other words, additional speculation on Pit Pass and its relative value is pointless at this time.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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tire rotation is for for to aft swapping, front tires get a beating in corners that takes the edge off of them, thats why you would want to still rotate your tires
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 10:12 AM
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But one thing that I meant about this training that you guys had was what did you actually "learn" about the car that you didn't already know... I know a few salesman that went to this training class, and they still don't know jack about the car...! I was starting to get annoyed at their ignorance... Anyways, throughout the time we've been waiting, you two have provided great information and I, as well as others I believe, certainly appreciate it...!
I, personally didn't learn anything new at this class, but that was kinda to be expected.

If the sales people you know went to this class (assuming it was the same class) and still do not know anything about the car, then they're really not with the program. They showed us the launch video and the complete walk around of the car, with our friend Gene Gidley. It's a very informative video that I should have my hands on in about a week.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 10:14 AM
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Mark F, Fireball, et al: Can any of you give a listing of the 27 points mentioned? And is the oil change just an oil change or is a filter required too (I hope so)? Basically I'm just wondering about the expectations on the technicians as far as being thorough and doing quality work - especially since I assume the pit pass is probably $1500-2000.
I'm positive that it includes a filter change as well. As to the 27 points, I can't remember them all, because they were scrolling on a list on the screen. But stuff like "Intercooler Water Resivour Tank Level" was one of them. It's a pretty throughout inspection.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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Pit Pass??!! No thankyou....
Here's the one thing that we haven't mentioned yet. If you decline the PitPass contract, you will most likely be asked to sign something stating that you understand the risks of not performing maintenance to your car. With something like this, if there is a warranty problem with the car and you cannot prove explicilitly that you had done the maintenance at the required times, your warranty will be void.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 10:25 AM
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Since values good maintenance and proper cool-down of the turbo:
"After running at high speed or high rpm, be sure to let the engine idle for 2-3 minutes before shutting it off (Helps the turbocharger cool down)"
- PitPass Maintenance Requirements, page 1

then or any dealer has no right to complain about Evo owners that install turbo-timers.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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Since values good maintenance and proper cool-down of the turbo:
"After running at high speed or high rpm, be sure to let the engine idle for 2-3 minutes before shutting it off (Helps the turbocharger cool down)"
- PitPass Maintenance Requirements, page 1

then or any dealer has no right to complain about Evo owners that install turbo-timers.
I have heard that Turbo Timers will not void your warranty.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 10:32 AM
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I have heard that Turbo Timers will not void your warranty.
I would concur. A turbo timer should pose no problems whatsoever. Sometime today I think I'm even going to bring up the matter and see if we can install them on every Evo we get.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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I'm not worried about the maintenance part.. My father owns an auto repair shop that specializes in japanese vehicles... Also, it helps that most of the techs are Jamaican.. They are all very well aware of the EVO.. As for the "27 point inspection", that should take about 1 min to do... Believe me... That's pretty much B/S whenever a shop says that they do that.. Whoa, they look at the car.. Big deal.. But, having the oil changes included is pretty much the point of it from what I can see.. I would guess that pre-paid oil changes are cool... Anyways, for those who aren't constantly keeping up with their maintenance like they should, PIT PASS is for you... I suppose...
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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I would concur. A turbo timer should pose no problems whatsoever. Sometime today I think I'm even going to bring up the matter and see if we can install them on every Evo we get.
Now that would be a cool option...!
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