Will the STI ever catch up?
May 27, 2005, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bolsen
If you don't think age has anything to do with it, then why aren't we running the smae exact 4g63 motor that was developed 40 years ago 
Can someone tell me what advantages there are for a Top mount IC?...Heat rises, hello?
May 27, 2005, 11:08 PM
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I think eventually it will all be equal. The 2.5L motor will be in the regular WRX in a "detuned" fashion for 2006, it's in the Legacy GT and the Forester XT. The market is getting bigger. The 4G63 has a huge head start so it's no wonder there is more stuff for the EVO/DSM market.
May 29, 2005, 09:30 AM
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Best "level headed" thread ever, no hate and that is refreshing to read.
/soapbox
As a former STi owner (sold to get into a house) I am looking to either car again and get the option of possibly picking an EVO this time. Truth be told, I don't think that the STi will "catch up" in terms of power on the ultra high end since anyone will take an iron block over an aluminum (even "semi-closed") but as some people said, if your not going to mod either very far then they will both suit you well.
Having said that, both cars were designed YEARS ago, and initially not meant to compete to this level, hence the "evolution" of the two. I think MItsubishi was more fortunate and their lancer design happened to translate better (for handling) than the STi. So yes I believe they were working with a better platform for handling than Subaru. Also both cars have had to change somewhat to make it to the US market as neither, initially, was considered to be brough over here and sold and that is why the Japanese versions have different items availible that we do not get.
The real question is now what does the future hold? Both manufactures now know they can sell either all around the world, and they both now know that they have a long history to build upon. I think what that means is both of these new chasis will be designed to be sold around the world and more importantly with awd, high hp, and handling carrying much more "weight" in their design process. I think Mitsubishi will of course try to retain their lead, but expect that Subaru's new design (whatever they decide on calling it) will improve on handling MUCH more to compete with the new "Evolution".
A long winded response that simply states, I don't really think this generation of STi's will truly catch up in terms of sheer horsepower wars, but in the next generation, with them knowing what they know now, and building "all new" chassis I think the fight will be MUCH closer than it is currently.
I'm still undecided even in this "generation" as both cars are fun though
Silverbane
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91T TD06 Powered MR2 250~ rwhp -Sold
2004 Aspen White STi Stock - Sold
/soapbox
As a former STi owner (sold to get into a house) I am looking to either car again and get the option of possibly picking an EVO this time. Truth be told, I don't think that the STi will "catch up" in terms of power on the ultra high end since anyone will take an iron block over an aluminum (even "semi-closed") but as some people said, if your not going to mod either very far then they will both suit you well.
Having said that, both cars were designed YEARS ago, and initially not meant to compete to this level, hence the "evolution" of the two. I think MItsubishi was more fortunate and their lancer design happened to translate better (for handling) than the STi. So yes I believe they were working with a better platform for handling than Subaru. Also both cars have had to change somewhat to make it to the US market as neither, initially, was considered to be brough over here and sold and that is why the Japanese versions have different items availible that we do not get.
The real question is now what does the future hold? Both manufactures now know they can sell either all around the world, and they both now know that they have a long history to build upon. I think what that means is both of these new chasis will be designed to be sold around the world and more importantly with awd, high hp, and handling carrying much more "weight" in their design process. I think Mitsubishi will of course try to retain their lead, but expect that Subaru's new design (whatever they decide on calling it) will improve on handling MUCH more to compete with the new "Evolution".
A long winded response that simply states, I don't really think this generation of STi's will truly catch up in terms of sheer horsepower wars, but in the next generation, with them knowing what they know now, and building "all new" chassis I think the fight will be MUCH closer than it is currently.
I'm still undecided even in this "generation" as both cars are fun though
Silverbane
An expert at anything was once a beginner...
91T TD06 Powered MR2 250~ rwhp -Sold
2004 Aspen White STi Stock - Sold
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