Diamond Star Motors.... huge info about it at dsm.org but basically it's referring to lasers/talons/eclipse's 89-94 and talons/eclipse's 95-99 that have the 4G63 engine.

 

From a 20 roll, it might be close. Sure the evo can hook up better, but those gst shouldn't be underestimated. Do your best and good luck, but i've seen a stock tsi awd beat a evo on the highway. no bull****. It all comes down to driver skill!!

 

Ur evo will stomp all over a stock turbo'd GST. Just be sure that the turbo is stock and not a big 28 or something else that uses the stock turbo housing.

 

ok i looked under his hood. I asked what he's running he said T3 then he said a T25 ported or something. Well i looked at the turbo and its fairly smaller htan mine but it said TD05H on the turbo when i glanced at it. Well i havent raced him at full potential but had a short run for fun with him in 2nd at around 30mph and i pulled on him slowly but he claimed he wasnt even redlining and his AVC-R setting was set so he'd save gas and his turbo would spool at like 4500rpm. What do u guys think? He's not as slow as i thought cuz i slowly pulled on him. But i plan to add Buddy CLub 272s and a dynoflash

 

Keep us informed!!

 

if it says td05 it's probably a 1g stock turbo or a 16g or even an 18g. it's not stock though...thats for sure

 

u got him

 

A few points. Evo weighs 3263, GS-T 2970 for the '99 which was the heaviest one.

Evos are not DSMs. The first year of the DSM was 1990. Why all these vendors keep showing '89, I don't understand. However, several cars were built as long ago as '88, just not released as anything but MY1990.

I was at about 200whp on my T-25 with similar mods, maybe the S-AFC would have eked out a few more, but it wasn't worth it.

He is trying to sucker you because he does not have the stock turbo anymore. TD05H on the housing could be anything from a 14b, 16g, 17c, B16G, EVOIII B16G, 18G, or 20G on the inside.

 

i didn't think the avc-r could change what rpm you make boost at, i thought it only controlled how much boost.

 

its not just the cars,it all about the driving or driver...

 

Oh yeah, missed that part. That's just BS speak for "I lost."

 

unless he's an idiot, he wont be claiming to smoke you with the wheezer stock garbage eclipse t25 turbo. Ive got a 16g on my GST spyder and I can take stock or near stock evo's from a roll very easily. Its difficult for us to gauge becuase you dont appear to really know his mods. Eclipses with turbo swaps are very quick, especially the FWD's from a roll. Speaking from a big 2G fan (hence the name), without a true mod list, your guess is as good as ours.

 

thanks for replies, well this guy just crashed his car and bent his subframe but no engine damage so I will be racing him soon, but i just ordered my buddy club 272s/fuel pump/dynoflash tune so i dont htink its gonna be too fair anymore, BUT now his friend with a SVT Cobra challenged me with flowmaster pipes. Better challenge. But i will still be racing the GS-T but i can already see the outcome.