Higher costs
Messier install (arguably)
More parts to potentially malfunction (arguably)

These are my personal opinions and the reason I prefer a mechanical type over an electronic type.

 

THANKS BTW: You have a PM.

 

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Al,

Would you recommend getting this over your boost control flash?

What would be the difference in how the boost behaves?

Car will only have an TBE, Drop-in filter and flash.

Thanks

 

I don't want to steal Al's thunder in his reply to you, but with his flash, you will be limited to one set boost level that you cannot change.

With a manual controller, you have the ability to adjust your boost, even in small increments, if desired.

Any flash will allow for some adjustment without requiring a complete retune just for changing between 19-21 PSI or so.

I'll let Al give you a definitive answer, however.

 

Mike I agree 100%

I prefer the mechanical boost controller, because it's such a simple design. Diagnosing a problem isn't be very complicated, because (for example) the Forge Unos only has 3 moving parts. The adjustment knob, ball and spring.

Whereas the electronic boost controller requires you to tap into an electrical source, uses an electronic solenoid, and and a circuit board to control boost..TOO much crap for the same type of outcome..A boost setting.

The Forge piece looks very nice. I bought my first Forge product in 2001 when I purchased a diverter valve for my 1.8t GTI. It performed flawlessly to the day that I sold the car. I purchsed 3 more for friends of mine based on it's quality, and effectiveness.

I would very much like to test out this MBC...I put my name in on the Hallman group buy last weekk...dammit.

-Gabe

 

All I can say to that is "Thank You"!

We sincerely appreciate that you have enjoyed our products and recommended them to others.

As far as commiting to the other Group Buy is concerned, however, that's a decision you are going to have to make on your own.

 

Al, you have PM.

 

A question that will probably be asked, so I will ask it: Does the Unos MBC kit include small sections of vacuum tubing?

 

Not currently but we are looking into possibly including some!

 

Thanks for the reply, I won't really be changing anything on the car that would require a boost change, but if the boost hits harder and is more consistent with an MBC, then that's what I'll get. I know an MBC compared to an EBC is the way to go, just not too familiar with the flash boost control.

Trying to keep this car to only a few mods.

 

I don't mean to imply that by modifying something else on the car that you would then need to adjust your boost controller. Most modifications won't require to to change your settings.

I mean if you ever feel the need to change the boost just for the sake of changing it, you will have the ability.

Personally, I think it's nice to have the option rather than being limited to one predetermined and unchangeable amount.

 

From my experince working with just about every EBC on the market the big problem has always been REACTION time of the control solinoid. Many units dont respond quickly enough and you have to turn down the gain significantly in order to prevent them from osilating the boost up and down this decrease in gain results in slow spool up.

I have yet to see the EBC which works as well as a god MBC (properly installed - I say this as I have seen many badly installed MBC's).

The OLD HKS EZ was about as close to an ideal EBC as you could get - simple - worked well - turn a knob up and down to raise and lower boost. For some reason HKS decided t modify it to the HKS EVC V which is a decent EBC as far as they go but I dont like the way it functions at the track when you try and run high boost and shift fast and I have seen quite a few fail.

The Gredy Profec B spec 2 is a decent bargain priced unit but you have to keep the gain down quite low to keep a steady boost level which means a slower spool up than with a MBC. The Profec B spec S or old profec B is a great unit but it only goes up to 26 psi.

The E boost by Turbo smart is a very advanced EBC but I have seen few customers who could figure out how to adjust it.

The thing about all the EBC units is that they are all man made and have their own flaws and issues. None of them is perfect.

In my mind nothing matches the simplicity, ease of install and reliability of a good MBC.

There will always be the customers out there who want the bell and whistle factor of the EBC and the extra bling inside the car but from a performance stand point its hard to beat a MBC.

 

The boost controlling flash is geared towards a particular customer. The kind of person who wants a hassel free, warranty friendly, install free plug and play soultion with more power is perfect for the boost controlling flash.

If you want the ultimate in control, adjustability and performance a MBC is the way to go.

You need a good gauge and the MBC together.

 

Thanks, I'll add the MBC to my list