lol . grrr88, now we got trolls on the board. hey buddy, check out my sig. those parts i have for it will be more than enough to smoke you. but i doubt id even need any of them.

p.s. i dunno if you know this, but, you are driving a NEON! heh

 

the srt-4 looks cool on the road. I've driven one. It's nice on the inside too. I've never been in a neon so i had nothing to compare it with. It seemed very nice to me. The black is my fac color because it looks sweet and you can see the FMIC from far away. The back end was too high for me though.

 

p.s. i dunno if you know this, but, you are 3 car lengths behind me.... how's the mufflerless exhaust taste

 

? i dont get it

 

I had some idiot lurch on me in an SRT-4 the other day. I was in my Jetta My guess is it was some salesman trying to promote the thing. I almost died laughing. Not only is the thing retarded looking IMO it really didn't seem all that fast. Of course I'm used to over 400rwhp so that may be why Dabgumbit when the hell is Ralliart comin to town?

 

ha ha ha, i bet id wip the ground your shat car drives on. while im accelling to 2nd gear and 5 cars ahead of you, you still trying to get off the line. you cant hold anything against awd in that srt-4!

p.s. not trying to be the dick. actually the srt-4 impresses me with the power its putting down, even if you dyno you used is inaccurate. but i still dont like the fact its a neon.

 

hahahaha

 

ok, back on topic so we can all learn something Thanks.

Mark

 

Sure we CAN!!

Lesson 1-

WRX = 160 to the wheels
Evo 8 = 180 to the wheels
Srt-4 = 220 to the wheels



Lesson 2-

wrx = $23000
Srt-4 = $19,995
EVo = $32,000


Moral of the story kid5 ..... Evo 8 === ghey

 

Paul,

I don't understand you point. Shiv stated he did a little race day chemistry and brewed up an estimated 94OCT equivalent. The results added an additional 10 hp but still leaves 20hp missing. What I am missing?

Speedlimit......

 

please stick to the topic.

hey shiv...can i come in to check out the car and the dyno sometime? i still havent seen the evo yet and i'd appreciate it.

 

lesson 3, you cant compare a front wheel drive car's hp to a all wheel drive hp. more differentials= more drive train loss. also, you got your inflated wgeel hp on a dyno that is inflating the hp of your srt-4. trying putting your car on a dyno like the one the evo was on in this thread. you wont get 220 out of it.

 

your first lesson is wrong because the srt-4 wasn't dynoed on the Vishnu dyno or even the same type of dyno as the vishnu dyno

you have to compare apples to apples

 

sorry fella.. wrx and evo8 #'s were dynoed on a dyno dynamics which reads lower than the dynojet # you are quoting.. if you were to dyno an srt4 on a dyno dynamics you would get ~188.. (according to the vishnu calc).. still pretty impressive for a sub 20k car.. anyway, back to your regularly scheduled programming..
--bobby

 

Gas Quality and Differing Dyno's.

I'm involved with the guts of manufacturers figures, catalogs and other data. I don't think MMC lied actually, I think the simply took the best figures from a well-worn in engine that they had made sure was in top tune, ran it on the best gas available in the States, and went with those numbers.

Or, to put it another way - I have a feeling that if you ran an Evo 8 JDM and an Evo 8 USDM next to each other on the same gas (that has been used long enough for the ECU to adjust to it), they would always report about a 30-40awhp difference. Shiv's dyno read 212-230awhp for the Evo VII, which is about 305-310hp on proper AWD dyno's in Japan. So if the USDM Evo 8 is 271hp via MMC's claims, that's 36-39hp less than the JDM Evo VII - about the difference between the two cars on Shiv's dyno.

Cheers,

Paul Hansen