From what Alfriedesq posts, you'd think he does a lot of tuning and knows what he's talking about. In reality, he just forks over a lot of money to get other people to tune his car.

While Shiv is a business man, he does have a very good reputation among most of the Subaru community. I'm sure he'll gain the same rep with the Mitsu world.

 

Are you high? Do you want to know how fast it is? Its 180whp fast.

Moving on, the Evo Lancer (USDM) is meant to compete with the (USDM) WRX, NOT the STi so I dont see why everyone is whining about the low power #s. Sure mitsu misquoted the power figure but there is nothing you can do about this except, yep you guessed it, whine. Be happy with what you have. And if you cant be happy with your Evo and you want a faster car buy an STi, or wait for the mythical Rallyart edition of the Evo to be released later.

 

I know Vishnu has an excellent reputation in the WRX community for developing inexpensive effective HP kits. The only concern I would like to address is Vishnu's apparent lack of race experience. After spending some time on the company website (which looks great) I am not seeing anything that is related to racing.... I would think that they would be very active in at least some form of auto-x, track events, drag racing, rally cross, or full up rally racing.

This thread really has bothered me though. I don't like how it started with the guess what, I dynoed the Evo, but I'm not going to tell you how it turned out.... If you want to wait and check out some stuff, that's cool... just don't post anything till you have the concrete numbers.

I still have reservations about the Evo only having 180 HP and Vishnu already having a 30 hp "quick fix" that I am sure they want to sell the Evo community. But, I am a natural skeptic. Shiv could be right on the money, and MMC could be overrating the HP claims - this wouldn't be the first time an automotive company has done this.... I hope not, but even if the Evo is only 240 hp, I really don't care... HP is very easy to add, the suspension & dynamics are the tough parts - and the EVO has all the goodies to add lots of HP cheaply - I think anyway...

This is just my opinion, and I am not trying to attack Shiv or Vishnu in anyway, they know a hell of a lot more about car tuning then I ever will... I am just waiting for some more people to get the Evo up on the dyno... 1 company's results are just that, 1 company's results....

 

exactly. "if you want to see more info go to my website" This sounds like advertising to me." Oh, and I also have a way to increase hp easily-just go to my website"

 

well, lets look at the hardware. this is the same 4g63 with the same internals as the previous evo is it not?? it has the same turbo, the same intercooler... does it not? if this is the case, the hp loss has to be in one, or perhaps all of the following:
- exhaust/ intake restristions
- very conservative tuning
- bad timing
this being said, it is likely that the hp difference from what we were thinking is most likely held up in one or all of these things. im willing to bet that if we change the intake, turbo back exhaust, mess with the tuning/timing, the car will yield very similar hp gain results as the j-spec evo 7's and previous evos have. however, the exhaust is a 3" mandrel bent,?? if so, changing the tubing is most likely not nessesary. but changing the cat to a hi flow, and the muffler could open up a bit... but i bet most the power is lost through a combination of tuning and timing. im still ganna get this car, because i have all the tools to open this 4g63 back to where it should be.

 

you are probably right on the money here... where is my Apexi PFC!!!???

I am assuming the timing is set way down for 91 octane.. anyone confirm this?

 

Have you've driven both sir? I have and it's not even a close comparason. STi and Evo is always compeditive. People say the subaur needs DCCD because it understeer so much and i'd bet my evo will out handle the USDM STi but we'll have to wait and see Believe me the evo handles and if subaru could make it better i'll be so impressed that i'll trade up for one.

I dont' understand what's the big deal. We have the same JDM engine folks but the USDM ecu is the problem. The our 4G63 is proven and this 8th generation should be bullet proof and 300hp when properly tuned with stock boost.

Sti is not even out how could you say it's better? Could DCCD even hold 400hp with the auto mode working properly? Think about it, I did and that's why I've gone with the evo.

 

Funny you mention that. We just removed the front page links to our wins this past years Open Track challenge, One Lap of America and US Touring Car (well, second place actually). We've had them there for months but we had to make room for the big EVO-on-dyno picture One of our customers, Bruce Brown, even won his class in US Rally running a car we tuned with a TEC-2. I've been heavily involved with motorsports for years. The only venue we haven't entered has been the drag racing scene. It just hasn't appealed to me. Never really found the point of deflating tires, running race gas, stripping cars, and running a big shot of NOS. I'd rather spend the day at LSIR

Cheers,
shiv

 

or worse yet, it is just set for emisions and they didnt quite think much about octane, causing to lose more power.

anyways, im not going the fret about this, i know its the same engine, so therefore it should make the same power, as long as its given the right conditions. and it should have the same potential. i know how to work a turbo car, i will make 400 hp by summer.

 

Blazing Saddles

 

You guys may want to check into water injection to compensate for the crappy 91 octane gas.

 

water injections into where?

 

91 octane? heh, not here... 104 & 110 are available here... 93/94 is what most gas stations sell which should be similar to 100 RON - anyone have more data bout this?

 

very cool... I wasn't aware that you guys did all that stuff.... Drag racing does nothing for me, but it's the benchmark that most people seem to use for a car's performance. I am assuming then that we can expect a full line of track ready products to make our Evo's into auto-x wonder-machines?

 

Yes, you can.

-- DavidV