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Speedlimit...

 

First of all, in the end... after any accident in which you walk away, you have to be thankful that it wasn't worse. So, congrats on not being hurt seriously.


Is it possible that the tires had been warmed up by the driving the night before as a reason you did not wreck on that night? Otherwise, the argument of a cold temperature making the tires let go would not make sense to me. If it was more technical, I am assuming you were feeling more lateral forces on the night before... and the temperature was colder. So, what I am saying is that if your arguing that the cold temperature was the cause for the tires to give way, then you should have wrecked the night before.

I definitely understand that the Evo makes the advisory speed warnings on exit ramps seem meaningless, I am just trying to help you in your argument here.

Good luck with your insurance. If there were no points/tickets involved, then it is possible your rate will not go up. Good luck.

 

In response to your statements:

1. The advisory speed is a recommendation for AVERAGE weather conditions. You drove around a corner EXCEEDING the advisory speed in BELOW-AVERAGE conditions for your tires but you want to blame the tires.

2. I would suggest the evidence indicates that you are not as sure of what your car is capable of as you seem to think.

4. Tires letting go is not a random phenomenon. They have clearly defined limits of grip on lateral loading which is a function, among other things, of compound and temperature. If you drove hard for an hour the night before your tires were undoubtedly warm which would have assisted them. You imply that you were not driving as hard the night of the accident therefore your tires would not have been as grippy.

I am a lawyer. And I am sick and tired of people failing to take responsibility for their own actions.

If your suit is successful the most likely result will be Mitsi will fit low performance tires to the Evo to suit low performance drivers.

If Progressive is successful in its suit and as a result crappy tires get stuck on the Evo - you will not be a particularly popular person.

 

Well, after reading the entire thread, I'm not sure what to make of it. I thought it was pretty well known that as temperature drops, so does traction.

Now I'm sorry you had an accident, but ultimately, the responsibility has to be yours.

Count yourself lucky that nothing worse happened and chalk it up to experience. To try and hold or Yokohama responsible for what is a normal operating characteristic of all tires seems to be a bit of a stretch.

Look at the bright side, you're undoubted help alot of other Evo owners avoid accidents by bringing the temperature/traction issue to the forefront.

 

for a lawyer, you sure don't read very well.

1. 40 degree weather on a cool crisp night with absolutely no moisture on the road isn't what one would consider "below average". that's a beautiful fall night.
2. and i'm sure you know to +/-.25 degrees what your lateral g-force rating.
4. letting go is not the same as skidding. and the reason i brought the night before up is because harder turns were taken with less time for the tires to warm up than the following evening. i wasn't driving as hard, but i did have a good 15 minutes of highway driving on them.

i'm not a lawyer. i too am sick of people failing to take responsibility for their actions. i'm also sick of people who don't want to take the time to read the whole story, or inquire for clarification, before casting judgement.

and i don't know where you read it, but THERE ISN'T ANY SUIT! the furthest i ever went was to say i'd look into the liability. you're a lawyer. if you had been in my shoes, you would have done at the very least the same, probably more.

 

Ahem, no, that would a below average traction situation with performance summer tires. This isn't that hard to understand.