Went to AMS DSM dyno day and I thank them for letting an evo sneak in there on there new awd dynojet dyno car put down 321awhp and 304tq.....Dyno sheet posted as well...Car is an 03 EVO.....stock turbo not upgraded hotside, stock injectors and following mods were....

HKS 272s
AMS FMIC
AMS TBE
Walbro Fuel pump
Hallman MBC
AFC II - with AMS tune
K&N Filter

20 lbs of boost and 93 pump

what you guys think...

 

Not bad. It kinda shows that the FMIC wasn't worth the money spent, but that power is "ok." It's certainly not "bad," so nothing is wrong with your car. They tuned your S-AFC very well, but you could probably do better at 21psi and with a flash. You'd at least gain that missing 20wtq that you're losing due to the S-AFC, but you may also gain another 10whp, since your mods should be good for about 330whp/330wtq. As I always say, though, the track will be the true measure of your power. If you go trap 111-112, you know the dyno results are dead on. If you trap 113-114, then you know you're making great power that isn't showing up on that dyno. If you do 110 or less, then your 3rd gear dyno tune may not work great for 4th gear.

Regardless, you're in the ballpark. I just wonder why they let the AFRs die after 6500rpm. You normally continue to climb on the HP scale after 6500 (with cams), but your graph seems to peak way early (6k rpm), then flatline, so it makes me wonder...

 

I see a few owners bought FMIC, but the gain is not much in terms of money spent. That kind of turn me off as I always want a big front mount

 

Yeah, who doesn't want one? They look really cool, which is why people get them, but the $/hp is terrible when adding one to the stock turbo. Imagine this guy's dyno results if he had an alky kit in place of the FMIC. The kit + installation + tuning would be about the cost of the FMIC itself while providing another 30-40whp.

 

An alky kit would have been a wise move, one that I'd consider instead of the upgraded FMIC in my own upgrade path. But I probably won't be touching the turbo or anything anytime soon either. Maybe that's his plan?

 

Sometimes, it's the plan, but most of the time, people just get it to look cool. An alky kit is just as important for an upgraded turbo as an upgraded FMIC, so you could argue it's better to do the alky kit first, since it helps you immensely on both the stock turbo AND upgraded turbo...as opposed to the FMIC only providing good gains on the upgraded turbo.

 

This is exactly why I went the alky route first. I went ahead and did all my intercooler piping but I'm holding off on a front mount until bigger turbo days in the future. Next mod for me is definately a clutch followed by the Pro driving school mod.

 

Yeah, looking at your mod list seems almost like the things I'd put on my car, especially on the stock turbo.

 

What kind of numbers would an alky kit add to those numbers?

 

Low numbers.

 

Probably put him around 350whp/350wtq with a proper tune...

 

I would say the AFC is killing you. I would opt for a flash of some kind. My mods are very similar minus the FMIC and you can see the HP in my sig.

 

Killing his torque maybe, but the HP is in the ball-park. The peak torque loss is standard for S-AFC users and is where a flash helps most.

 

School me on why the SAFC is costing him TQ vs. a flash. Thanks

 

That seems a little low to me with cams. I put down 306/306 on 91, but maybe the AMS dyno reads lower than the TT dyno I was on. Seems likely, since you're on 93.