the synchros are made to slow down the dog teeth on the gear by "biting" into the oil. if the it is shifting hard then you may need to double cluth.. or try pushing the clutch pedal all the way in. i used to miss shift in my Z because i would try to shift to quick. but the gear has to slow down. if you want a fast shift try skipping the clutch pedal all together. but say by to your tranny. basicly slow down on you shifting. some tranny's are actually designed not to let you shift if the speed of the vehicle is to high for that gear. just useless knowledge

 

I just broke mine in and I have grinded second 2 times and missed 2 times. I am not retarded and I know how to drive just fine, but somthing kinda catches and then you miss or grind. No big deal I just need to get used to it I guess

 

Exactly Sano. It snags like I've been saying. Basically when shifting into 2nd it hits a snag in the neutral gate before going into 2nd. Since I'm shifting fast I'm expecting to release the clutch at the same time it's "supposed" to go in gear. But the snag keeps it from going in gear at the time I release the clutch so I grind it. Happened twice on the track today and ruined my best 60' times and what would've been my best times of the day.

My friend has a lightning and with plenty of mods off the bottle was running mid 13's @ 103-104. Most of the Lightnings there today were in the 13-14 sec range with 2+ 60'. Granted I'm sure they're not the best drivers but with 400+lbs of torque I find it hard to see anyone getting enough traction with street tires on to pull a 1.8. Of course you do have a lot of weight on your side so maybe. Those are bad *** trucks though. Still take the Evo anyday as it can keep up in a straight line and it wouldn't even be funny in the twisties.

 

I'm not saying anything about trashing the tranny. If it holds it holds. I've never had this problem in any other car I've raced. So the Evo is a little different. I would rather fix the problem than change my techniques. The stick should shift as fast as I can make it shift. Otherwise why is it a sports car? I'm sure a fix will come in the form of a short shifter or some other mod for it. I hope at least. Until then I will slow my shift to 2nd or try shifting earlier. But I hope you guys can see how absurd it sounds to have to slow down my shifting when in a 1/4mi that's what keeps you from losing valuable tenths on the ET.

BTW, I never miss a gear on the freeway or road but I don't drive it like I hate during those times either. Many people have had the shift to 2nd problem so I know it's somewhat of a problem. I just hope there's a fix for it soon.

 

Hopefully it's nothing a new shifter won't fix. I'll be pissed if the tranny synchros can't handle a 1-2 speed shift. Shifter should help but it does sound like a synchro prob.

 

I know from first hand knowledge that one, AWD cars are tougher
to launch in my opinion, and the WRX tranny is weak and a pain.
I did install a short shifter and it made it much better. I'll get my evo in about 3 weeks and just hope it does shift better than the WRX does. Regardless of what people say I think the WRX has the weakest clutch I have truly ever driven, but it's a great car other than that.

 

From my experience it seems we may need to depress the clutch a little farther than we think we should have to. Perhaps that is part of the problem?

 

press the clutch all the way and do not release it until the next gear is engaged. let the synchro work what its supposed to do.

 

SEQUENTIAL SHIFTER!!!

And it's only $1600.00

My 2 cents,

Oni'

 

Forgive me for saying this but if the synchros are keeping the stick from going in gear with the clutch depressed all the way then it's a piece of $--t! It's retarded design IMO if it doesn't allow the shifter to fall into gear when guided there. Everyone can feel the notch even on slow shifts. If it's supposed to help the life of the tranny then they should've built it better whilst allowing smoother shifts period. The Supra doesn't have this problem. Corvettes don't have this problem. Z's don't have this problem. Porsches don't have this problem. It just makes no sense to me. Almost sounds like let the car drive you and not the other way around. I eagerly await someone to open this up and see if there's the rubber gromets someone was saying or if the creation of a short shifter they will be able to solve the problem. That's the first mod on my list for sure. BTW on my last run I held the clutch down the whole time but it wouldn't go into 2nd. I'm guessing my revs were too high and it's has an issue when under that heavy a load in that low of a gear. I will attempt to shift it much sooner to see how it affects things.

 

I remember the same problem in my GSX. never was able to fix it.

 

If the tranny is similar to my car, and in principle I think it is, shifting 1st to 2nd at a lower rpm will help. You have enough low end torque that it shouldn't affect your times, provided 1st is the only gear you shift early on (6000 rpms).

 

Change your trans oil.
Whilst it's not a DSM trans, it's by the same people, so a good place to start would probably be the fluids 2G DSM boxes enjoy.

The 1st trans in my 98 loved GM Synchromesh, hated the various Redline combinations. 2nd trans doesn't like GMS but works very well on BG Synchroshift (II ?)

My 95 shifts best with 2 quarts BG and a top off of GMS - hates Redline, notchy with pure GMS.

Synchro gears will never shift really fast because of the design.
It takes a dog box to shift really fast.

1st to 2nd slowness is usually synchro-related as there is a much larger speed differential than with the other gears, so it takes longer for the synchros to match the speeds.

Charles

 

maybe the clutch was adjusted so that only very little slip is allowed and you really have to press the clutch all the way down,or else the clutch is not yet disengaged which means it is still turning the gears which no amount of synchro can correct. you can adjust the clutch if you want to disengage early but it will risk premature wear on this part.

 

forgive my ignorance.. i'm new...:
what is DSM??
i've been reading up on everything evo/wrx related for the past few years and have yet to hear that term. thanks.

also, i'm looking to get an evo four weeks from now... and with what everyone here is saying that sequential tranny sure sounds nice
and in response to another thread... i found a place a couple hours from here that is selling them at M.S.R.P. shhhhh! hehe. i'm getting the base model plus carbon fiber wing for $30k even. from what i've read here that's a good deal??