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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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The color on the STi is the Crystal Gray Metallic.

I've been into the DSM/EVO scene for quite some time. I've always had a lot of respect for the STi because it does compete so well with the Evo. In June of last year my back started giving me trouble, so I was planning on selling the Evo due to it's unbearable ride quality. The new 06 STi's are still much stiffer than normal vehicles, but not so stiff that it's causing me pain on a daily basis. Because of the back problems I've also given up on doing a lot of modding of my cars, my back just won't take it any more. I still have a lot of respect for Evo's and there is no doubt in my mind that mod per mod the Evo can beat the crap out of an STi, but the STi is good for me right out of the box. I'll sharpen up the handling a bit with strut towers, sway bars, and arm braces, but I won't stiffen the springs. After that I'll toss in a K&N Filter Charger, and a Greddy Evo catback. Warranty will be fine aside from the parts that are being replaced, and I'm just fine with that.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Im glad everyone is so willing to bash on Mitsubishi for poor service. Keep in mind when you upgrade any car Honda, Ford , Mitsu or Chevy you will have problems with dealerships not wanting to cover the car. I know the parts you had on your vehicle should have nothing to do with your motor going bad. But mitsu gets screwed left and right by people. For instance someone puts a NOS system on a evo blows the motor then removes the system and mitsu has to cover the bill. It happens more than you think. I havnt heard of anyone having any problem with mitsu if the car was stock. Mitsubishi stands behind their product more than you think. When it comes to evo's Mitsubishi asks alot of questions before droping the money to fix it becuase of being bent over so many times. I dont think its fair but if your going to mod the car then dont complain if Mitsu doesnt want to fix it. Your solution would have been to remove any and all aftermarket parts and they wouldnt have said anything to you.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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You need the Wednesday car, not the Friday one

That's a shame, I hope I have better luck with Skyline Mitsu, I will give them the benefit of the doubt even though we already started off a little rough (not service related though).
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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Riverside, I agree with you, but that wasn't the main reason I was upset. I was upset because they tried to blame every other thing in order to get me out of their door. The service I received was apalling. Combine that with the fact that the car crankwalked at 23k with stock clutch, line, etc. and you've got the makings of a manufacturer issue that the manufacturer tried to weasel their way out of.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by slo4g63
You need the Wednesday car, not the Friday one

That's a shame, I hope I have better luck with Skyline Mitsu, I will give them the benefit of the doubt even though we already started off a little rough (not service related though).
Evo's are made over seas so I dont think your wensday idea is valid. How cars last has alot to do with how they are driven. Like the evo we have sitting in are bay right now. Car was owned by a friend that works here he had it for 7000miles car ran perfect not 1 problem. He sold it to a younger kid and within 3 days of owning the car he has Killed the transfer case and clutch.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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Im glad everyone is so willing to bash on Mitsubishi for poor service. Keep in mind when you upgrade any car Honda, Ford , Mitsu or Chevy you will have problems with dealerships not wanting to cover the car. I know the parts you had on your vehicle should have nothing to do with your motor going bad. But mitsu gets screwed left and right by people. For instance someone puts a NOS system on a evo blows the motor then removes the system and mitsu has to cover the bill. It happens more than you think. I havnt heard of anyone having any problem with mitsu if the car was stock. Mitsubishi stands behind their product more than you think. When it comes to evo's Mitsubishi asks alot of questions before droping the money to fix it becuase of being bent over so many times. I dont think its fair but if your going to mod the car then dont complain if Mitsu doesnt want to fix it. Your solution would have been to remove any and all aftermarket parts and they wouldnt have said anything to you.
Come on now, its pretty obvious that Mitsu has a serious cust. svc problem. It seems like evo owners are the most loyal Mistu fans by far. What does Mistsu do in return?? it sounds like most of the time evo owners are assumed guilty until proven innocent by the majority of Mitsu dealers for KNOWN defects... i.e. the problems with the recaro's & paint issues. If they were smart they would stop the bulls**t games & start trying to build a happy owner base with the hopes that evo owners might buy another Mitsu down the road.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by [pK]Lightning
Riverside, I agree with you, but that wasn't the main reason I was upset. I was upset because they tried to blame every other thing in order to get me out of their door. The service I received was apalling. Combine that with the fact that the car crankwalked at 23k with stock clutch, line, etc. and you've got the makings of a manufacturer issue that the manufacturer tried to weasel their way out of.
Some stealerships are worse than others. I know here we tend to help our customers out and overlook mods unrelated to problems. Alot of morons have ruined it for you and im sorry that you had to go through any of this. But bottom line is if you mod a car to above normal performance which puts strain on everything in the car. Dont get mad when your warranty claim gets turned down. I know with your car you shouldnt have had any problems because all you had was small mods. You would be suprised what people bring into for service and think is covered. For instance a Evo cam in with a load lifter tick at like 4000 miles we tore into it under WARRANTY and it ended up having hks 272's. The kid forgot to mention that he had cams installed and they didnt bleed the lifters. Then the this person was super upset that we couldnt get it covered by mitsu. We ended up giving super steep discounts to make it alot less painful we got the labor down to cost or close to it. But this shows how much people try to take advantage of mitsu.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RiversideMitsu
Evo's are made over seas so I dont think your wensday idea is valid. How cars last has alot to do with how they are driven. Like the evo we have sitting in are bay right now. Car was owned by a friend that works here he had it for 7000miles car ran perfect not 1 problem. He sold it to a younger kid and within 3 days of owning the car he has Killed the transfer case and clutch.
BTW yes I have lived overseas, specifically in Tokyo, and yes, we have Wednesdays there too. Hell, we even celebrate X-Mas

Yes this was intended as a joke to lighten some people up towards Mitsu, but I guess the ones that work for them don't understand?
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wookie
Come on now, its pretty obvious that Mitsu has a serious cust. svc problem. It seems like evo owners are the most loyal Mistu fans by far. What does Mistsu do in return?? it sounds like most of the time evo owners are assumed guilty until proven innocent by the majority of Mitsu dealers for KNOWN defects... i.e. the problems with the recaro's & paint issues. If they were smart they would stop the bulls**t games & start trying to build a happy owner base with the hopes that evo owners might buy another Mitsu down the road.
which paint problems? Btw I have yet to see one recaro seat come in yet. Also most dealerships would replace the back in a heartbeat no questions asked.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by slo4g63
BTW yes I have lived overseas, specifically in Tokyo, and yes, we have Wednesdays there too. Hell, we even celebrate X-Mas

Yes this was intended as a joke to lighten some people up towards Mitsu, but I guess the ones that work for them don't understand?
Im just saying their work ethics are alot better over their.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Totally agreeable, damn, your in Riverside, wish I was over that way. I lived in Glendale/Santa Clarita valley and miss it oh well, back on topic. Sorry to see another one go but the STI is nice as well. Here in CO seems to have a huge tight knit group of Subies.... The EVO's seems kind of scattered throughout.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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You see..... thats the big problem for me to make my decision between the 06 STI or EVO IX. You can make biiiiiiiiiiiiiggg power with the EVO, but subaru's reliability with their warranties pull me in that direction. My girlfriend has an 04 STI and I love the power that it brings just being stock, but it's sooooo hard to make more power. Anything above 350 whp on the STI and you need very deep pockets. When you purchase an EVO you have to basically hope and pray that you got one of the "better made" ones from the factory and not a lemon...
+1 thats the only problem w/ the STi, is making BIG power, all you have to do w/ the EVO is fart at it, and before you know it your in the 11's
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by wookie
Come on now, its pretty obvious that Mitsu has a serious cust. svc problem. It seems like evo owners are the most loyal Mistu fans by far. What does Mistsu do in return?? it sounds like most of the time evo owners are assumed guilty until proven innocent by the majority of Mitsu dealers for KNOWN defects... i.e. the problems with the recaro's & paint issues. If they were smart they would stop the bulls**t games & start trying to build a happy owner base with the hopes that evo owners might buy another Mitsu down the road.
Couldn't have said it better... I owned an 03 EVO VIII and have been driving manuals for the past 14 years now with 5 of those years having seat time at the track. during the 6 months of me owning the EVO, it went in to the dealer 6 times due to 2nd and 3rd gear grinding. The clutch was never dumped and the vehicle was never powershifted so it was obviously a defect from the factory. They pushed me away every time saying they COULD NOT DUPLICATE the problem. The next month I traded it in for an Xterra... Hehe... Hopefully when i pick up my EVO IX this summer I won't get the same bull@#$...
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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Another thing to keep in mind is that because we live at 6300ft of elevation, the car doesn't push as much HP as it would at sea-level. I would be willing to bet that even with all the mods on my vehicle, the strain on the engine and components was still less than what they are at sea-level due to the power difference, and even at sea-level it takes some serious abuse to have the thing crank-walk at 23k. I never launched the car, it was my daily driver. I babied the thing and they trashed it. When I brought the car in you could eat off my valve cover. When I brought it home you could tell by the dents, scratches, missing bolts, broken valves, etc. that they had completely half-assed the fix. I keep my cars absolutely pristine, and what the dealer did here was absolutely unacceptable.

Mitsubishi does everything in their power to make sure they can weasel their way out of the Magnuson Moss act. When it comes down to it, I had a metal replacements for a plastic pipe, copper plugs instead of irridium, a cat-back exhaust, and a turbo timer on the vehicle. None of those could have caused crankwalk, and they STILL tried to get out of fixing it.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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which paint problems? Btw I have yet to see one recaro seat come in yet. Also most dealerships would replace the back in a heartbeat no questions asked.
There was a thread on here earlier today regarding the seatback's breaking & it didn't sound like most dealerships were replacing them in a heartbeat with no questions asked. You're probably making the assumption that most Mitsu dealerships are straight forward like you seem to be. Mitsu's poor cust. svc seems to be a constant & reoccuring theme on this forum.
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