Engine Blown Mitsu will not cover repairs HELP.
Skilmatic:
So you were running 20psi (RSX) on an already high compression motor (stock internals)? What did you expect it to do, it did what is should have done Blown up !
Go get your supra and run about 10-15psi higher than you should (no motor work) and tell me the results.
So you were running 20psi (RSX) on an already high compression motor (stock internals)? What did you expect it to do, it did what is should have done Blown up !
Go get your supra and run about 10-15psi higher than you should (no motor work) and tell me the results.
Originally Posted by mr96gsx408
Man... if you search my thread 3 weeks ago, I made one where they kept my car for 1 week in order to get a mitsu rep to deny my warranty on my new evo 9 that's 4000 miles, and 3 months old.
My car was sputtering and it turned out to be a broken o2 sensor, but all I had on were aftermarket HIDs. They finally approved warranty work, and fixed it. That little modification caused them to try and deny my warranty... that's
for you
My car was sputtering and it turned out to be a broken o2 sensor, but all I had on were aftermarket HIDs. They finally approved warranty work, and fixed it. That little modification caused them to try and deny my warranty... that's
for you
So you were running 20psi (RSX) on an already high compression motor (stock internals)? What did you expect it to do, it did what is should have done Blown up !
Go get your supra and run about 10-15psi higher than you should (no motor work) and tell me the results.
Go get your supra and run about 10-15psi higher than you should (no motor work) and tell me the results.
The stock turbos on the 2jz are ca12's which already boost between 8-12psi stock. Adding another 10-15 makes the turbo go beyond its efficiency point. I would think you would knwo that too. Now you may be able to get away with that on the 7mg and the mr2 turbos which are ct26's. However, you are pushing it too. And IMO will not work.
However, it has been proven time and time again toyota has been better in their motor department and especially their drivetrain department. The 2jz's have always been much more respected than any 4g63. Do you stil want to argue that fact or do you want to dig yourself a deeper ditch to bury yourself in?
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Honda does it! I had a turboed RSX that had a Mugen ecu and I ended up blowing the motor @ 20psi on the stock internals. Took the turbo stuff off left the Mugen ecu in with the apexi vtec controller and a few other things. And honda gave me a brand new k20 engine the only stipulation was that I had to install it myself which I prefered anyway. Jeez get a clue dude. A boost controller and a SAFC is not much of a modification. Now if he upgraded turbos, injectors, fuel pump, etc etc then I would see the necessity in voiding a warranty. But if he left everything stock and just messed with the air/fuel furthermore he turned the boost DOWN NOT UP. Then mitsu DEFINITELY has to warranty that ****.
Now if he was over 19psi and there was a way too indicate that to prove that he was then I would void warranty too. However, this is not the case. This is just another frail attempt by mitsu to renig on their warranty as it always does.
Again anyone have a supra they want to trade for? I have a 06 EVO 9.
Show me any other engine that has blown from just a safc and a boost controller and the boost was turned down not up. Show me that bud.
Now if he was over 19psi and there was a way too indicate that to prove that he was then I would void warranty too. However, this is not the case. This is just another frail attempt by mitsu to renig on their warranty as it always does.
Again anyone have a supra they want to trade for? I have a 06 EVO 9.
Show me any other engine that has blown from just a safc and a boost controller and the boost was turned down not up. Show me that bud.
Originally Posted by my91talontsi
For as long as I have worked at a dealership I have never seen the manufacturer let the customer install a warranty engine. I never worked for Honda though.
They told me they would cover the engine but not the installation as they knew I was obviously modding the engine. So I did NOT say one word other than thank you and I had a phat smile on my face with my brand new full long block k20 with all the accessories on it in the back of my van on the way home.
Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
I don't know why you would think you have a case. This is all you. Sorry.
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you can't overboost on stock ecu. it'll cut itself out before anything.
I've tested this. 25psi is the highest you could go on stock ecu until the fuel cuts itself out.
4g63 will not be killed unless it's a bad tune or standalone that's not tuned correctly OR just beating the hell out of it for a long time, like say at the track.
Usually melting the pistons are abuse or overheating the engine for a prolong period of time...
thats my understanding.
good luck on the fix. Buschur stroker kit!
I've tested this. 25psi is the highest you could go on stock ecu until the fuel cuts itself out.
4g63 will not be killed unless it's a bad tune or standalone that's not tuned correctly OR just beating the hell out of it for a long time, like say at the track.
Usually melting the pistons are abuse or overheating the engine for a prolong period of time...
thats my understanding.
good luck on the fix. Buschur stroker kit!
Originally Posted by forbidden color
you can't overboost on stock ecu. it'll cut itself out before anything.
I've tested this. 25psi is the highest you could go on stock ecu until the fuel cuts itself out.
4g63 will not be killed unless it's a bad tune or standalone that's not tuned correctly OR just beating the hell out of it for a long time, like say at the track.
Usually melting the pistons are abuse or overheating the engine for a prolong period of time...
thats my understanding.
good luck on the fix. Buschur stroker kit!
I've tested this. 25psi is the highest you could go on stock ecu until the fuel cuts itself out.
4g63 will not be killed unless it's a bad tune or standalone that's not tuned correctly OR just beating the hell out of it for a long time, like say at the track.
Usually melting the pistons are abuse or overheating the engine for a prolong period of time...
thats my understanding.
good luck on the fix. Buschur stroker kit!
Originally Posted by forbidden color
you can't overboost on stock ecu. it'll cut itself out before anything.
I've tested this. 25psi is the highest you could go on stock ecu until the fuel cuts itself out.
4g63 will not be killed unless it's a bad tune or standalone that's not tuned correctly OR just beating the hell out of it for a long time, like say at the track.
Usually melting the pistons are abuse or overheating the engine for a prolong period of time...
thats my understanding.
good luck on the fix. Buschur stroker kit!
I've tested this. 25psi is the highest you could go on stock ecu until the fuel cuts itself out.
4g63 will not be killed unless it's a bad tune or standalone that's not tuned correctly OR just beating the hell out of it for a long time, like say at the track.
Usually melting the pistons are abuse or overheating the engine for a prolong period of time...
thats my understanding.
good luck on the fix. Buschur stroker kit!
That is all I can literally add.
Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Honda does it! I had a turboed RSX that had a Mugen ecu and I ended up blowing the motor @ 20psi on the stock internals. Took the turbo stuff off left the Mugen ecu in with the apexi vtec controller and a few other things. And honda gave me a brand new k20 engine the only stipulation was that I had to install it myself which I prefered anyway. Jeez get a clue dude. A boost controller and a SAFC is not much of a modification. Now if he upgraded turbos, injectors, fuel pump, etc etc then I would see the necessity in voiding a warranty. But if he left everything stock and just messed with the air/fuel furthermore he turned the boost DOWN NOT UP. Then mitsu DEFINITELY has to warranty that ****.
Yes honda is a little different than the rest cause they are known for the best warranty backing. Honda takes care of their cars they have pride in them. They do not try and look how they can get out of a warranty. Mitsubishi invests more money in trying to get out of warranties then just doing the warranty.
They told me they would cover the engine but not the installation as they knew I was obviously modding the engine. So I did NOT say one word other than thank you and I had a phat smile on my face with my brand new full long block k20 with all the accessories on it in the back of my van on the way home.
Yes honda is a little different than the rest cause they are known for the best warranty backing. Honda takes care of their cars they have pride in them. They do not try and look how they can get out of a warranty. Mitsubishi invests more money in trying to get out of warranties then just doing the warranty.
They told me they would cover the engine but not the installation as they knew I was obviously modding the engine. So I did NOT say one word other than thank you and I had a phat smile on my face with my brand new full long block k20 with all the accessories on it in the back of my van on the way home.
Dude I'm a tech at honda and everything that you said is complete BS. Any kind of warranty work HAS to be done by a tech at honda. There is no way that they gave you and warranty engine for you to install yourself. That just does not make any sense.
And also your claim that a boost controller and an AFC are "not much of a modification" is just complete and total BS. With those 2 mods you are significantly altering a/f ratios away from stock parameters which is a 100% reason to void a powertrain warranty.
Originally Posted by zlancer
Dude I'm a tech at honda and everything that you said is complete BS. Any kind of warranty work HAS to be done by a tech at honda. There is no way that they gave you and warranty engine for you to install yourself. That just does not make any sense.
And also your claim that a boost controller and an AFC are "not much of a modification" is just complete and total BS. With those 2 mods you are significantly altering a/f ratios away from stock parameters which is a 100% reason to void a powertrain warranty.
And also your claim that a boost controller and an AFC are "not much of a modification" is just complete and total BS. With those 2 mods you are significantly altering a/f ratios away from stock parameters which is a 100% reason to void a powertrain warranty.
Also show in writing where it says honda HAS to do any warranty work and that thay CAN NOT issue a person warranty merchandise. Honda was happy and thrilled that I wanted to do it myself. That was less work for them. The truth is in the money trail pal. If a dealer can get out of any work they lose money on they will do it. Since I was willing to do it myself they can get back to doing their scheduled maintenance and back to making money. Please understand how a dealership works before exclaiming your BS!
Also give me the number to the dealer you work at and I will call.
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
You are complete and utter BS! I would guess that a tech from honda would understand that a/f ratios have NOTHING to do with your drivetrain. Rather They directly have to do with your engine, then the power created from those changes in a/f ratios are negated through your drivetrain. I thought a tech would know these things. However since you just reputiated yourself with the total utter BS you just exclaimed maybe you would be better off reading the safc for dummies section.
Also show in writing where it says honda HAS to do any warranty work and that thay CAN NOT issue a person warranty merchandise. Honda was happy and thrilled that I wanted to do it myself. That was less work for them. The truth is in the money trail pal. If a dealer can get out of any work they lose money on they will do it. Since I was willing to do it myself they can get back to doing their scheduled maintenance and back to making money. Please understand how a dealership works before exclaiming your BS!
Also give me the number to the dealer you work at and I will call.
Also show in writing where it says honda HAS to do any warranty work and that thay CAN NOT issue a person warranty merchandise. Honda was happy and thrilled that I wanted to do it myself. That was less work for them. The truth is in the money trail pal. If a dealer can get out of any work they lose money on they will do it. Since I was willing to do it myself they can get back to doing their scheduled maintenance and back to making money. Please understand how a dealership works before exclaiming your BS!
Also give me the number to the dealer you work at and I will call.
Also, A/F ratios are not negated through the drivetrain. The transission(if that's what you are referring to) has nothing to do with air/fuel ratios. If you run an inproper A/F you will damage the engine.
