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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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SKILMATIC, you should sell it. It's not the car for you. You can surely get a good price for it, if it's only 350 miles. There are plenty of people out there who would die to have it, and will treat it well and have zero problems. Keep in mind this is a worldwide forum, and the problems you are seeing are a relatively small portion out of an immense group.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by UT_Evo
Been there done that, all stock too... sucks, but so does mitsu

OOOHHHHHH SEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! I HAVE SOMEONE THAT AGREES WITH ME TOO. SO WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU? WAS IT YOUR EVO OR AN ECLIPSE?
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SterlingEvo
SKILMATIC, you should sell it. It's not the car for you. You can surely get a good price for it, if it's only 350 miles. There are plenty of people out there who would die to have it, and will treat it well and have zero problems. Keep in mind this is a worldwide forum, and the problems you are seeing are a relatively small portion out of an immense group.
Well you been here longer than I have what would you say the % is?

I mean dont get me wrong I like the car I liek the styling and motor but I am just getting scared hearing all these horror stories.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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The problem with the drivetrains are that people think when they get this car they dump/pop the clutch at 6k rpm and not have any negative repercussions. This is not the case.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by my91talontsi
The problem with the drivetrains are that people think when they get this car they dump/pop the clutch at 6k rpm and not have any negative repercussions. This is not the case.
Ok so what would be a safe rpm to dump at on this car? Now mind you I have never gone past 65mph or 3000rpms on this car yet.

Also is this car ok to do high speeds?
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Hey I said thank you. Geees, I try to be polite and see what people say to me?

You asked and I answered.

O and evos give themselves bad names. I dont have to do that after so manny of them have broken down already. After getting on this forum I wish I had never bought one. I wish I had found this forum earlier.
Do you really think you are helping the poor guy who started this thread by coming on here and starting a war with everyone on the boards? there is no reason why we should listen to anything you are saying right now. Seriously though, how could you overboost and rsx, strip the turbo components, and then take it in asking for a new motor? Were you responsible for the damage? yes? why? because you knowlingly overboosted the car. that simple fact says enough about why we shouldn't listen to what you have to say. what you did was illegal. i work in a law firm during the summer, you committed fraud, or someone at the dealership is absolutely insane and most definitely violating honda's warranty agreement by forking over another engine (and just giving it to you? wow).

Ok and another thing. what are you doing coming on here complaining about the evolution? Obviously anyone with half a brain, and who is serious about cars (and by your boasting it seems like you are) would research the hell out of a 30k car before buying it. And the evolution is a great car by nearly everyone's standards. I don't know how old you are, and i would be astounded if you are out of your teens with that attitude, but it just sounds like your father-son bonding experience was nothing more than you blowing a nice car and daddy forking over another 30k so you can f-up another one. it just does not make sense. If you are older i'm sorry but i just feel bad for you. no need to go any further on that.

Even if everything you are saying is true, we don't care. Put yourself in our shoes. Would you believe someone on a forum who is talking like you right now? I come on the evolution forums to learn. I hate it when i have to read posts where good information and discussion is hindered by ignorant and wasteful comments like yours. Sure i own an oz, yes it is way to slow, but i love cars anyway and i use the forums to express that. theres no need to prove anything to anyone which sadly enough you are wasting way to much time doing. isn't it your bed time by now?

So seriously, stop whining about mitsu, put yourself in our shoes, maybe realize what you are saying, and then please get off the boards. you obviously waste a lot of your time just don't waste ours in the process.

To the guy who started the thread: I'm so sorry about what happened. Considering the situation I do not think Mitsu is liable but they must prove that your mods did the damage (unforunately they most likely did). If they don't have a strong case though fight it if you want. Maybe something good could happen. Good luck with your car though.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Ok so what would be a safe rpm to dump at on this car? Now mind you I have never gone past 65mph or 3000rpms on this car yet.

Also is this car ok to do high speeds?
I never totally dump the clutch on my AWD car. I have a 91 DSM by the way. I slip the clutch slightly and then launch.

Sure the car is ok for high speeds. But there is a difference between driving a car hard once in a while and beating on it, which I think a lot of people do to their cars.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
You are a total and complete idiot! Mugen is specifially designed for hondas. Go back to blowing up your engines.

The ecu was designed for turbo applications. The safc is for any engine you nimrod!
Dumbass... Did I say Mugen was NOT designed for Hondas? I said Mugen does not produce turbo applications for ANY car in the Honda lineup. Their ECU - which is not programmable... it's ROM-based unit - are designed for N/A motors. Go check it yourself on www.kingmotorsports.com or mugen.co.jp. Secondly, you said V-AFC... which is a Honda-specific variant of the S-AFC... which incidentally reminds me... why would you need a piggyback if your "Mugen ECU" was already tuned for turbo like you claim. which everyone in the Honda world knows (at least those who actually know) doesn't work for **** when it comes to MAP-based system. And on top of all this, you ran high boost on an open deck K20 and expect it to survive? Good one... shows how much you do KNOW (or should I say don't know). Phuckin newb coming in here actin like he's a dayam authority.

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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PurgeIt
Dumbass... Did I say Mugen was NOT designed for Hondas? I said Mugen does not produce turbo applications for ANY car in the Honda lineup. Their ECU - which is not programmable... it's ROM-based unit - are designed for N/A motors. Go check it yourself on www.kingmotorsports.com or mugen.co.jp. Secondly, you said V-AFC... which is a Honda-specific variant of the S-AFC... which incidentally reminds me... why would you need a piggyback if your "Mugen ECU" was already tuned for turbo like you claim. which everyone in the Honda world knows (at least those who actually know) doesn't work for **** when it comes to MAP-based system. And on top of all this, you ran high boost on an open deck K20 and expect it to survive? Good one... shows how much you do KNOW (or should I say don't know). Phuckin newb coming in here actin like he's a dayam authority.
Do you want me to repeat what you just said because thats not what you said and you dam well know it. Now you are refurbishing what you said after I just called BS on you.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 4-BNGR
read your warranty and consult an attorney
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mtags24
Do you really think you are helping the poor guy who started this thread by coming on here and starting a war with everyone on the boards? there is no reason why we should listen to anything you are saying right now. Seriously though, how could you overboost and rsx, strip the turbo components, and then take it in asking for a new motor? Were you responsible for the damage? yes? why? because you knowlingly overboosted the car. that simple fact says enough about why we shouldn't listen to what you have to say. what you did was illegal. i work in a law firm during the summer, you committed fraud, or someone at the dealership is absolutely insane and most definitely violating honda's warranty agreement by forking over another engine (and just giving it to you? wow).

Ok and another thing. what are you doing coming on here complaining about the evolution? Obviously anyone with half a brain, and who is serious about cars (and by your boasting it seems like you are) would research the hell out of a 30k car before buying it. And the evolution is a great car by nearly everyone's standards. I don't know how old you are, and i would be astounded if you are out of your teens with that attitude, but it just sounds like your father-son bonding experience was nothing more than you blowing a nice car and daddy forking over another 30k so you can f-up another one. it just does not make sense. If you are older i'm sorry but i just feel bad for you. no need to go any further on that.

Even if everything you are saying is true, we don't care. Put yourself in our shoes. Would you believe someone on a forum who is talking like you right now? I come on the evolution forums to learn. I hate it when i have to read posts where good information and discussion is hindered by ignorant and wasteful comments like yours. Sure i own an oz, yes it is way to slow, but i love cars anyway and i use the forums to express that. theres no need to prove anything to anyone which sadly enough you are wasting way to much time doing. isn't it your bed time by now?

So seriously, stop whining about mitsu, put yourself in our shoes, maybe realize what you are saying, and then please get off the boards. you obviously waste a lot of your time just don't waste ours in the process.

To the guy who started the thread: I'm so sorry about what happened. Considering the situation I do not think Mitsu is liable but they must prove that your mods did the damage (unforunately they most likely did). If they don't have a strong case though fight it if you want. Maybe something good could happen. Good luck with your car though.
I hope you didnt invest too much time typing this as it is a waiste of time. I am sorry mistu doesnt take care of customers like honda does. Yes I blew the motor and openly admitted it so what. You want a cookie everytime I say it? I knew what I was doing and I took the chance. However, honda unlike mitsu even though they saw mu engine management never said a word about it. Just checked to see who did my tuning and then said when the engine was arriving.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by my91talontsi
I never totally dump the clutch on my AWD car. I have a 91 DSM by the way. I slip the clutch slightly and then launch.

Sure the car is ok for high speeds. But there is a difference between driving a car hard once in a while and beating on it, which I think a lot of people do to their cars.
Ok good to know. This is my first awd car. So I a little new to the awd stuff. However, I am willing to learn what I should do.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
I hope you didnt invest too much time typing this as it is a waiste of time. I am sorry mistu doesnt take care of customers like honda does. Yes I blew the motor and openly admitted it so what. You want a cookie everytime I say it? I knew what I was doing and I took the chance. However, honda unlike mitsu even though they saw mu engine management never said a word about it. Just checked to see who did my tuning and then said when the engine was arriving.
Obviously my opinion about the rsx was not the point of what i typed.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Well you been here longer than I have what would you say the % is?

I mean dont get me wrong I like the car I liek the styling and motor but I am just getting scared hearing all these horror stories.
then do us all a favor and sell it ASAP... save your peice of mind for another honda
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Do you want me to repeat what you just said because thats not what you said and you dam well know it. Now you are refurbishing what you said after I just called BS on you.
Hahah... Here's what I wrote:

"I smell bull****. So you left in a non-Honda ECU and they were totally cool with it eh? And you used a N/A ECU with a turbo? interesting..."

Honda does not = Mugen. Mugen is NOT Honda. Is that hard to comprehend? If a Honda dealer checked out your car as you claim, they would have immediately noticed that the propoer ECU is NOT in the car. Ding... no dealer in their right mind would warranty a blown motor especially when the telltale signs are there that you messed with it.

Number two... Mugen DOES NOT make ECUs for turbo applications, ONLY for N/A. So how did you run a N/A ECU on a turbo motor, specially when so many parameters are completely different for a turbo set up?

With a V/S-AFC? As I said... any moron who does even a little bit of research on HOW the APEXi units work knows that it's completely ineffective and uselss on speed density / MAP cars.

So tell me... how do you tailor a non-programmable ROM-based N/A ECU to work with a turbo application?
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