Engine Blown Mitsu will not cover repairs HELP.
Originally Posted by Evoryder
you @ kendall mitsu?
and always take mods like that out b4 going to the dealer...profec and super afc can be removed pretty easily....not sure how you cut your wastegate line.... what happened when your car died on you? ...profecs don't fail...poor installation fail... wastegate open to boost whatever ...not enough fuel (in a rich as hell car) ....not paying attention to boost ...maybe you hit 30-35psi with a 13-14:1 afr curve....i wouldn't cover your car personally...so imagine mitsu.
question: did you change the hose that lead from wastegate and turbo to profec...if not... remember this.... fuel lines in replace of the vacuum lines....will not tear or melt...stronger than silicone that cut like butter....
and always take mods like that out b4 going to the dealer...profec and super afc can be removed pretty easily....not sure how you cut your wastegate line.... what happened when your car died on you? ...profecs don't fail...poor installation fail... wastegate open to boost whatever ...not enough fuel (in a rich as hell car) ....not paying attention to boost ...maybe you hit 30-35psi with a 13-14:1 afr curve....i wouldn't cover your car personally...so imagine mitsu.
question: did you change the hose that lead from wastegate and turbo to profec...if not... remember this.... fuel lines in replace of the vacuum lines....will not tear or melt...stronger than silicone that cut like butter....
has to be hardcore about warranty issues. There are always scumbags that want to commit fraud and get something for nothing. How about you man up and pay for the rebiuld because you modified the car??? If you cannot afford to rebiuld the motor and you want to keep warranty then do not modify your car with parts that will void the warranty.
Originally Posted by PurgeIt
Hahah... Here's what I wrote:
"I smell bull****. So you left in a non-Honda ECU and they were totally cool with it eh? And you used a N/A ECU with a turbo? interesting..."
Honda does not = Mugen. Mugen is NOT Honda. Is that hard to comprehend? If a Honda dealer checked out your car as you claim, they would have immediately noticed that the propoer ECU is NOT in the car. Ding... no dealer in their right mind would warranty a blown motor especially when the telltale signs are there that you messed with it.
Number two... Mugen DOES NOT make ECUs for turbo applications, ONLY for N/A. So how did you run a N/A ECU on a turbo motor, specially when so many parameters are completely different for a turbo set up?
With a V/S-AFC? As I said... any moron who does even a little bit of research on HOW the APEXi units work knows that it's completely ineffective and uselss on speed density / MAP cars.
So tell me... how do you tailor a non-programmable ROM-based N/A ECU to work with a turbo application?
"I smell bull****. So you left in a non-Honda ECU and they were totally cool with it eh? And you used a N/A ECU with a turbo? interesting..."
Honda does not = Mugen. Mugen is NOT Honda. Is that hard to comprehend? If a Honda dealer checked out your car as you claim, they would have immediately noticed that the propoer ECU is NOT in the car. Ding... no dealer in their right mind would warranty a blown motor especially when the telltale signs are there that you messed with it.
Number two... Mugen DOES NOT make ECUs for turbo applications, ONLY for N/A. So how did you run a N/A ECU on a turbo motor, specially when so many parameters are completely different for a turbo set up?
With a V/S-AFC? As I said... any moron who does even a little bit of research on HOW the APEXi units work knows that it's completely ineffective and uselss on speed density / MAP cars.
So tell me... how do you tailor a non-programmable ROM-based N/A ECU to work with a turbo application?
SKIL, stop spouting off about issues in which you have no clue about what you're talking about. Sticking a "Mugen" ECU on a heavily boosted car is possibly the most retarded thing I've heard all day.
Original poster - good luck with fixing the car.
Originally Posted by blakevo8
i blew my motor the lower end a rod right through it during warrenty 15,000 4 months later they finally fixed it wanting 5 grand, got there they wanted 9 thousand the motor was boosting 11 pounds, the motor mounts were lose it broke down 10 miles from the place, this was at inwood mitsu morons there but i got around it for free ahaaaaa mitsu cant make you pay for it find a way scheme them your right not them they know they cant prove it in court.
Originally Posted by blakevo8
i blew my motor the lower end a rod right through it during warrenty 15,000 4 months later they finally fixed it wanting 5 grand, got there they wanted 9 thousand the motor was boosting 11 pounds, the motor mounts were lose it broke down 10 miles from the place, this was at inwood mitsu morons there but i got around it for free ahaaaaa mitsu cant make you pay for it find a way scheme them your right not them they know they cant prove it in court.
is gay and that they wouldn't back up their warranty. It's like those liquor stores...."you break, you pay!!!!" can't expect someone else to pay for you messing up your car
Last edited by glomeli; Feb 11, 2006 at 08:24 AM.
Ok Update !!!
The district manager agreed to give me a 1/3 discount on the cost to replace the short block and "refurbish" the head. Somehow I'm betting they will bend me over anyways.
Cost for new short block and refurbished head = approx $4500. (before discount)
Why would I have them do the work instead of buying a new motor.
1. If I decided I can afford to keep the car after all the sh*t I've been thru, it will still be under warranty.
2. If I decide to sell it, it will still be underwarranty. Plus I had purchased an extended warranty that takes my overall warranty on drivetrain etc to 100,000 miles and is tranferrable.
I personally think it was not bad tuning, but a faulty injector that caused this. The guys at twilight performance (the only AWD dyno in FL) tune cars for a living day after day for years. Their tuning and my mods were not agressively tuned. I barely got 290 whp. Boost was not turned up. You cant with a stock wastegate.
Personally, again, I think it was just a bunch of coincidences that got me screwed. But yes modding the car is something I should have considered more seriously.
On a side note I got my flaking Brembos changed after 3 months of nagging them and getting all kinds of excuses from the service manager. So dont think I am new to the dealship thing. If I was not persistant I would not have gotten the new calipers that I was entitled to. I even got a new IX rear spoiler too.
I think something would have gone wrong eventually, the SAFC being tuned to be leaner that stock probably just speeded up the process.
Thanks for all the feed back. And if I had to do it again. I would not have bought a Turbo car. They break too easily. At least for daily driving.
Cost for new short block and refurbished head = approx $4500. (before discount)
Why would I have them do the work instead of buying a new motor.
1. If I decided I can afford to keep the car after all the sh*t I've been thru, it will still be under warranty.
2. If I decide to sell it, it will still be underwarranty. Plus I had purchased an extended warranty that takes my overall warranty on drivetrain etc to 100,000 miles and is tranferrable.
I personally think it was not bad tuning, but a faulty injector that caused this. The guys at twilight performance (the only AWD dyno in FL) tune cars for a living day after day for years. Their tuning and my mods were not agressively tuned. I barely got 290 whp. Boost was not turned up. You cant with a stock wastegate.
Personally, again, I think it was just a bunch of coincidences that got me screwed. But yes modding the car is something I should have considered more seriously.
On a side note I got my flaking Brembos changed after 3 months of nagging them and getting all kinds of excuses from the service manager. So dont think I am new to the dealship thing. If I was not persistant I would not have gotten the new calipers that I was entitled to. I even got a new IX rear spoiler too.
I think something would have gone wrong eventually, the SAFC being tuned to be leaner that stock probably just speeded up the process.
Thanks for all the feed back. And if I had to do it again. I would not have bought a Turbo car. They break too easily. At least for daily driving.
Last edited by rudebwoyt; Feb 14, 2006 at 03:17 PM.
turbo cars break when pushed beyond limits....people need to remember small turbo ...moderate boost unless supporting mods can assist....have a conservative tune versus aggressive...may feel great ...injectors sticks or something... KAAABOOM .... so lets not blame turbo cars.
Twilight is not the only AWD dyno in FL ...not even South FLorida
good luck on the car ...keep us posted
Twilight is not the only AWD dyno in FL ...not even South FLorida
good luck on the car ...keep us posted
Turbo cars are okay for daily use as long as you use common sense such as waiting til the engine warms up prior to boosting, having a timer and making sure you don't overboost or spike your exhaust gasses. I've used a number of cars like ST 165 Celicas, MA 70 Supras, 3rd Gen RX7 prior to my Evo and they worked just fine for a number of years.
Call your lawyer and make sure he is very familiar with the Magnuson-Moss Act.
Talk to you district rep again and flash the Magnuson-Moss Act. A lot of the dealerships and district reps dont even know what it is. But make sure you read it and are familiar with it.
The dealer was giving me problems about my TC because I had Redline fluids and a ACT clutch, well after lots of fighting with the rep I won. They are giving me a new TC and rebuilding the tranny since metal got into it from the broken *** TC.
Talk to you district rep again and flash the Magnuson-Moss Act. A lot of the dealerships and district reps dont even know what it is. But make sure you read it and are familiar with it.
The dealer was giving me problems about my TC because I had Redline fluids and a ACT clutch, well after lots of fighting with the rep I won. They are giving me a new TC and rebuilding the tranny since metal got into it from the broken *** TC.
Last edited by BBYBruno; Feb 14, 2006 at 05:00 PM.
Originally Posted by Happy Madison
congratulations. you are now officially the dumbest person on evoM.
EVos ar fast cars but I ave noticed that most EVO owners abuse their cars...LOL street retail EVOs are not designed for racing at all... They are for high performance street driving... i will never buy a used EVo cause you know it was beat up...
Originally Posted by ExcessLancer
EVos ar fast cars but I ave noticed that most EVO owners abuse their cars...LOL street retail EVOs are not designed for racing at all... They are for high performance street driving... i will never buy a used EVo cause you know it was beat up...



