Ok then I stand corrected. Thats what I meant, they used 9/11 as justification of invading Iraq when Saddam had no links to it at all. As far as the WMD justification, I mean thats just ridiculous in and of itself, cause there are plenty of other countries with them and we didnt invade them, like North Korea. Iraq had NO stockpiles like was claimed before our invasion, even if they had the "capability". But what Iraq DID have was oil, and plenty of it. The difference between me and people like MRinChrist, and George W. Bush, is I can actually ADMIT when I make a mistake. Still havent seen any proof from you MRinchrist supporting anything you claim. Im kinda getting bored with it now though, it was fun while i was bored at work but now Im just bored with people like you who are so set in what they believe that no amount of proof will change their mind.

 

Its isnt about whethor a country has wmds already or not it is about a country having them and having no recourse at all of what happens when they use them. You see russia and the US much like alot of other countries have an understanding of MAD. The ME countries could care less of MAD they only care about killing. This is the problem. Its not about any country having them its about an unstable country having them that does NOT care. For example, if GB(which already has nukes but saying that they didnt have one yet) if they decided to make a nuke we woudl be like ok and make sure it is done right and protected properly. On the other hand, if Lebanon decided to make a nuke we would be like hahahaha yeah right I dont think so over my dead body. See the difference?

So do you now understand the difference on why we invaded a country like iraq instead of Russia, france, GB, etc etc? IMO yes I think we shoudl invade N Korea.

 

Credit where credit is due. You admitted you were wrong. I appreciate that and it suggests you are objective.



Now drop that "Bush knew about 9-11" nonsense and you will be on the right track.

 

What Bush doesn't know could fill a book.

 

Oh, I take that last post back. You are delusional...I have provided substantial proofs and substantiation for my claims and you have chosen to myopically ignore them because they leave you absolutely naked and defenseless.

1. Saddam had WMD, the world agreed.
2. Saddam had connection with al qaeda.
3. Iraq is the central front on terrorism.
4. The media and Democrats have orchestrated a series of lies intended to demoralize America, the troops and encourage the enemy, for political power.

 

He was a better student than Gore and Kerry, he flew a jet, Harvard MBA, ran a baseball organization, twice elected Governor of Texas and twice elected President of the US...Bush is not the best orator but he is anything but a dumb guy.

 

How does your foot taste?

BTW...This is a secular nation dominated by Christians, this is not a theocracy and therefore killing is fine and dandy...and, for your information, when Jesus comes back he is going to be PISSED OFFFFFF!!! and probably with a buzz cut and ***-kickin' boots.

 

Saddam Hussein:

"Terrorism is coming. I told the Americans a long time before Aug. 2 and told the British as well … that in the future there will be terrorism with weapons of mass destruction." Saddam goes on to say such attacks would be difficult to stop. "In the future, what would prevent a booby-trapped car causing a nuclear explosion in Washington or a germ or a chemical one?" But he adds that Iraq would never do such a thing. "This is coming, this story is coming but not from Iraq."

Also at the meeting was Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz, who said Iraq was being wrongly accused of terrorism. "Sir, the biological is very easy to make. It's so simple that any biologist can make a bottle of germs and drop it into a water tower and kill 100,000. This is not done by a state. No need to accuse a state. An individual can do it."

ABC news


So Bushie?...Should we have entered Iraq?....What a stupid question!

 

Actually I must correct you too, Bush DID know about 9/11 about a year before it happened thanks to a group called "able danger." Also Clinton knew about it a year and a half before it happened too. Let me depict for you what "able danger" is.

Able Danger was a classified United States Special Operations Command military intelligence program under the command of the U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM). It was created as a result of a directive from the Joint Chiefs' of Staff in early October 1999 by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Hugh Shelton, to develop an Information Operations Campaign Plan against transnational terrorism, "specifically al-Qaida." According to statements by Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer and confirmed by four others, Able Danger had identified the September 11, 2001 attack leader Mohamed Atta, and three of the 9/11 plot's 19 hijackers, as possible members of an al Qaeda cell linked to the '93 World Trade Center Attacks. The group used all information legally collected under the rule of law. Primarily consisting of classified information, all publicly obtained information was approved after a legal review of SOCOM lawyers. If true, the early identification of the four hijackers by Able Danger would contradict the official conclusion of the 9/11 Commission, that American intelligence agencies had not identified Atta as a terrorist prior to the attack.

The existence of Able Danger, and its purported early identification of the 9/11 terrorists, was first disclosed publicly on June 19, 2005 in an article "Missed chance on way to 9/11" by Keith Phucas, a reporter for The Times Herald, a Norristown, Pennsylvania daily newspaper. Eight days later, on June 27, 2005, Representative Curt Weldon, vice chairman of the House Armed Services and House Homeland Security committees, gave a special orders speech on the House floor detailing Able Danger.

"Mr. Speaker, I rise because information has come to my attention over the past several months that is very disturbing. I have learned that, in fact, one of our Federal agencies had, in fact, identified the major New York cell of Mohamed Atta prior to 9/11; and I have learned, Mr. Speaker, that in September of 2000, that Federal agency actually was prepared to bring the FBI in and prepared to work with the FBI to take down the cell that Mohamed Atta was involved in New York City, along with two of the other terrorists. I have also learned, Mr. Speaker, that when that recommendation was discussed within that Federal agency, the lawyers in the administration at that time said, you cannot pursue contact with the FBI against that cell. Mohamed Atta is in the U.S. on a green card, and we are fearful of the fallout from the Waco incident. So we did not allow that Federal agency to proceed."

Rep. Weldon later reiterated these concerns during a news conferences on February 14, 2006. He stated that Able Danger identified Mohamed Atta 13 separate times prior to 9/11 and that the unit also identified a potential problem in Yemen two weeks prior to the attack on the USS Cole in October, 2000. The Pentagon released a statement in response to Rep. Weldon, stating they wished to address these issues during a congressional hearing before the House Armed Services Committee scheduled for Wednesday, February 15, 2006.

Now alot of people have not heard of "able danger" because our good ole president bushwacker deemed that they be "hushed." Yes thats right the DoD has forced them not to speak out because it could repudiate the department for their failure to act to protect America(which is what the DoD's job is). And guess who the DoD's boss is? Yep, thats right President Bush himself. Which would ultimately make Bush responsible for not making/letting the DoD do their job because of the apprehension of "not enough evidence."

I tell ya gentlemen we have a grave problem with our government today. And most people don't have a ******* clue wtf is going on.

 

he did not run a Basball Organization, he attached his name and invested almost nothing then ran off with Millions just because of his name.


Bush is best summed up as thus....


He was born on third base but acts like he hit a Tripple.... That is George Bush

 

I don't know why you mentioned about the baseball team because he didn't mention it. However, runing and owning is 2 completely different things.

 

He turned around the Clinton recession and had the ***** to take it to the terrorists. Bush will go down as one of the greatest Presidents, maliciously attacked and slandered by the media and Democrat party...The media and Democrats will not be treated kindly in historical perspective.

 

You are half correct. Clinton knew about Able Danger and deep sixed it, he buried it and spent his final days selling pardons to the nearest crook, including Marc Rich (corporate uber-badguy).

SKIL...Are you saying Bush knew about 9/11/01 on 9/11/00?...I really do hope you will correct this obvious error and place blame where it belongs.

 

Yes he did turn it around but I doubt he will end up as one of the greats. His folly was so many things. He had too much go wrong on his plate and not enough will to fix it. Yes he did good things about the war on terror but thats about all he did not to mention spend money like it was ocean water.

A great president was Reagan, Washington, FDR, Teddy, etc etc. Those were great presidents. Bush wil be like all the rest. Noted for his great achievements and his downfalls. The pessimistic thing about how history placates itself is that a man is measured on how much wrong he has done not by his good merits. I only pray to God that this changes and we see the good things in man.

 

No what I said was he knew a year before it happened meaning not exactly to the minute but approximately a year before it happened. Able danger held a conference with the DoD and joint chiefs in september of 2000 to conveigh their intelligence findings. That is when all personel in the intelligence department, the executive branch, and the DoD found out about the planings of 9/11.