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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FahKen Evo!
One would only need to look at 9-11 and how he sat there during the attacks,
What should he have done, and how would that extra 5 minutes have changed the face of the reaction? I cannot keep the propaganda straight. You and the lefties are saying he just sat there (somehow implying that he could have done something to turn back time and prevent 9-11) and then the lefty propagandists say Bush rushed into Iraq (18 months later) like a gun-slinging cowboy?...It is dizzying keeping track of what the propaganda play de jour is.

If you want to point fingers than look to the Clinton Administration. Remember, Sandy Bergler stole documents from the National Archives BEFORE testifying before the 9-11 Commission...Does this not make you look in the direction of the Clinton regime for culpability?
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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No SKIL, I will honestly and objectively assess the citation. You are confusing me with an intellectual lightweight. I assure you I am discerning and **** enough not to accept BS from either direction. I passionately dislike lying Democrats, but I hate with venom lying Republicans...I analyze commentary and "news" with this as my posture.
May I enlighten you a little that everyone is NOT broken down into republicans and democrats. A matter of fact I hate each party. IMO the democrats are wrong 100% of the time and the republicans are wrong 80% of the time. I would love for each party to be incompassitated by the beautiful people of America.

My point is, not to attack you, but to uncover fact from fiction. The facts are decidedly on Bush's side in this propaganda war. He inherited a foreign policy disaster and recession. The Clinton Administration has sealed their guilt as the primary suspect, regarding what led to 9-11, by stealing top-secret documents incriminating to the Clinton White House...That obstruction of the investigative process seals who was responsible and who should be held accountable for what led to 9-11...Until the Democrat friendly media grills Clinton and Berger, we are left with a gaping hole of unanswered questions. Alas, the media is too busy trying to blame Bush and undermine the war effort.
Look, every politician is the same. Bush is no different than clinton. They both have the same outlook and agenda and that is to make money. Did you know Bush and Clinton are apart of the same secret world organizations that only the richest and most powerful people are apart of? The history channel did a compelling story of this. I will try and dig it up somewhere. Bush is no innocent person that I can assure you. Yes he has done some great things but at the same time has done some horrible things and has also not done some things that need to be done.

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by trinydex
where did you get to hear these tapes... i'm interested
http://video.ap.org/v/en-ap/v.htm?g=...9-8127e2c6f17e

You will notice AP spins and lies about Bush. They imply in their coverage (as did all of the establishment media) that Bush was warned about a breach of the levees. This is a lie. The AP piece also omits that Bush called Blanco and offering immediate support, Blanco declined.

I typed AP, Brown and tapes in Google and got this http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Brown+tapes+AP...as you will see the establishment media have tried to spin what is obviously vindicating to Bush and Brown into an indictment of Bush and Brown...They basically offer the tapes and tell the news consumers they say something they do not, namely Bush knew a "breach" would occur.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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Hey SKI and el producto?...This is what really happened in Katrina, huh?



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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MRinChrist
What should he have done, and how would that extra 5 minutes have changed the face of the reaction? I cannot keep the propaganda straight. You and the lefties are saying he just sat there (somehow implying that he could have done something to turn back time and prevent 9-11) and then the lefty propagandists say Bush rushed into Iraq (18 months later) like a gun-slinging cowboy?...It is dizzying keeping track of what the propaganda play de jour is.

If you want to point fingers than look to the Clinton Administration. Remember, Sandy Bergler stole documents from the National Archives BEFORE testifying before the 9-11 Commission...Does this not make you look in the direction of the Clinton regime for culpability?
Yep keep on lieing to yourself, keep on classifying anybody who dares disagree with you as lefties and give the same cliche' rant over and over again. Yes I am implying he just sat there, so did the video of it. Also he had this information long before the attacks, even was on the cover of a NY Newspaper on the COVER no less in August of 2001. ANyone with a brain would step up securty at major airports, he didn't, he was to busy building his bike path. 1 week for Katrina response too. Bush was too busy sucking the dicks of the Saudies (and flying them out of the country afterwards) over oil and trade and he was asleep at the wheel. He is simply incompetant and he has ruined this country in terms of unity and foreign relations.

I am a Republican, but I am anti-Bush, I stand by my country, not my president.

1 Trillion gone, on what I might ask? Just say propaganda again and laugh nervously maybe I will get it this time. Clinton would have handled this situation much better becuase he has the ability to think, Bush does not, he can only react to things like light and loud noises and what other people told him to do.


Clinton was dirty, but he also was VERY smart, Second only to Nixon who was probably our smartest President.

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FahKen Evo!
Clinton would have handled this situation much better becuase he has the ability to think, Bush does not...
You are probably right...I have to give it to Clinton cause he had the ***** to cover up his failures regarding terrorism. He lied about the Sudan offering Osama on a silver platter, and he had Sandy Berger steal top-secret documents from the National Archives...Pretty smart, especially if you have something to hide.

If Bush was half as smart as Clinton, Bush would have planted WMD stockpiles in Iraq.

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MRinChrist
http://video.ap.org/v/en-ap/v.htm?g=...9-8127e2c6f17e

You will notice AP spins and lies about Bush. They imply in their coverage (as did all of the establishment media) that Bush was warned about a breach of the levees. This is a lie. The AP piece also omits that Bush called Blanco and offering immediate support, Blanco declined.

I typed AP, Brown and tapes in Google and got this http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Brown+tapes+AP...as you will see the establishment media have tried to spin what is obviously vindicating to Bush and Brown into an indictment of Bush and Brown...They basically offer the tapes and tell the news consumers they say something they do not, namely Bush knew a "breach" would occur.
Sorry, Bush fuct up and again, asleep at the wheel and again, frozen in the face of danger and urgency. Go watch Fox news some more to get your Bush news, I am sure it would be much more to your liking.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FahKen Evo!
Sorry, Bush fuct up and again, asleep at the wheel and again, frozen in the face of danger and urgency. Go watch Fox news some more to get your Bush news, I am sure it would be much more to your liking.
Katrina and its failures are 99% the fault of the uber-corrupt state of Louisiana and more precisely the incompetent Ray Nagin...Nobody could have imagined they could turn a hurricaine into an avalanche of incompetence....Governor Blanco refused Bush's offer of support, Blanco refused the Red Cross access to the Dome, because they did not want the po' black folk to stay there...These are the facts and you have become a propaganda parrot, a willing regurgitator of the most vile agit-prop class-warfarist propaganda.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MRinChrist
Katrina and its failures are 99% the fault of the uber-corrupt state of Louisiana and more precisely the incompetent Ray Nagin...Nobody could have imagined they could turn a hurricaine into an avalanche of incompetence....Governor Blanco refused Bush's offer of support, Blanco refused the Red Cross access to the Dome, because they did not want the po' black folk to stay there...These are the facts and you have become a propaganda parrot, a willing regurgitator of the most vile agit-prop class-warfarist propaganda.
SO your saying, that bush wasnt incompetent in the situation, are you saying bush acted as fast as he could. If you are saying that, then you dont read enough, yeah lousiania was f**** up, but that does not excuse the fact that fema was not ready, and bush knew before the big disaster even happend, he knew that a big hurrican was going to hit louisiana, and he didnt act fast enough even though he had the info in front of him.

Come on now you cant put the blame on just the louisiana board.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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ANything Bad about Bush is Simply Propaganda Jesus haven't you been listening to MRinChrist? Everybody knows that the Germans had invented a Hurricane machine that can aim hurricanes at the U.S. and that Bush was busy with real important stuff a week after the storm had hit. That's why it took him so long to react, duh.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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I'm sorry but don't people die in a war??? And don't they know there is a chance of this when they sign up to protect this country. Let them do their job, we have military for a reason. Please people use a little common sense.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MRinChrist
Hey SKI and el producto?...This is what really happened in Katrina, huh?



I know "SKI" wasn't referring to me. I happen to beleive katrina happened because nature wanted it too. It had nothign to do with Bush or any other politician. Now the way the aftermath was handled it did have to do with people in our government and FEMA. However, most of the downfalls happened due to the local government not the federal level. The same thing happened in the aftermath of Andrew. The local government lagged on getting a formal letter to the President to ask for fed aid.

The only thing that was the federal levels fault was the failure to put the budget money into enforcing the levees.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FahKen Evo!
Sorry, Bush fuct up and again, asleep at the wheel and again, frozen in the face of danger and urgency. Go watch Fox news some more to get your Bush news, I am sure it would be much more to your liking.
You ever ask yourself why it is FoxNews that is always demonized, yet the rest of the media is treated as sqeaky clean?...It must be that they attempt objectivity and this rankles the establishment press. They (the establishment) are sorta pissed that their monopoly has been busted up and so they demonize Fox. The only reason Fox looks "right leaning" is because the rest of the media is so ultra Democrat friendly that middle of the road looks Republican biased.

Shouldn't seeBS be the demonized channel?...They knowingly used forged documents to slandere Bush, for gosh sake!
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
The only thing that was the federal levels fault was the failure to put the budget money into enforcing the levees.
The monies were allocated time and again, but they were misappropriated. Louisiana's Nah'lins isn't known as the "big sleazy" for no reason.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MRinChrist
The monies were allocated time and again, but they were misappropriated. Louisiana's Nah'lins isn't known as the "big sleazy" for no reason.
Yes allocation is the key word here. Yeah they were allocated alright to other programs. However, I will admit it was not only this admins fault but the fault of previos admins too.
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