If you know anything about turbos and the production of them every turbo manufacturer in the world makes their turbos off of garrets specs and their part lines. For example, the impellar shafts I mentioned earlier arent a mitsubishi part it is actually from Garret. A matter of fact the only think mitsu produces are the A/R housing. Everything else is farmed out to other turbo manufacturers.

Also just a side note turbonetics which is a huge name in turbos actually fabs their parts off of garret parts. Apexi, greddy, and hks use innovate and garret parts.

Its kinda like when someone comes out with a carbon fiber hood. For instance, if fiber images came out with the first carbon fiber hood for a supra well after that every other cf fabricator on the market will make knock offs and use that as the prototype. Its actually a growing problem in that field.

 

Good lord, it does not come from the MIVEC. It comes from boost. I don't know why you are so hell-bent on this.

Do you see the graph you posted from Vishnu? Why do you think that IX's torque is so low? It has MIVEC, but the torque is terribly low due to low boost. I've seen some IXs that only registered 1.1-1.2 bar in stock form. Not all of them see their full boost potential when stock. However, after a flash/mods, they get to where they should be. The MIVEC isn't magically giving the torque spike - it's boost.

I can't believe after I already pointed it out multiple times, you still tried to use that 2nd graph as proof. Can you really not see how the torque is 30 lower than the HP? Does that not register in your mind? Please, try not to regurgitate things that you don't understand like when you once said Al tunes to a 13:1 AFR. Try to actually understand what's happening here...

 

What is "unerstand?" Please, all I'm asking of you is to not use words you can't spell. We've been over this before.

 

Listen to yourself, you have no inclination on how to even measure a turbos housing let alone knwo the correct measurement. So let me ask you this, do you have a 16g from a 03-04 evo infront of you and if you do where do you start the measurement and where do you end. Please give me specifics. Thanks you.

Also its obvious you have no idea how a turbo works. A bigger exhaust housing does allow the turbo to produce more boost and allow for quicker spool. Did you know any turbine is exhaust driven? Well if a turbo is exhaust driven then guess what drives the turbo? Thats right the exhaust gases do. I mean its sad that you own a turboed car and you dont even know how the freaking thing works. Now on the A/R side its the opposite the bigger the A/R housing the longer its going to take to hit peak boost but when it does hit boost hold god watch out!

 

Yes this makes perfect sense.....its not hard to understand. Like it was said earlier If you stick a evo9 turbo on a evo 8, the evo 8 will produce more power. BIGGER TURBO MORE POWER....

 

Its called typing very fast and I could care less about my spelling to a bunch of 1st graders. You got pwned in the other thread and you will get pwned here once again. Face it your time is up and you will keep getting pwned everytime because you don't know much.
You know you got pwned because every person who does get pwned starts whining about the other persons SPELLING AND GRAMAR this is forum basics 101 I have been here many times and it doesn't surprise me. After a little while you wil start complaining about my grammar and English usage after that fails you will whine to a mod to ban me. This is a classic scenario. Only time will tell bud.

 

SKILMATIC, please stop. You are so wrong it hurts me to read. Remember when we went through about 10 PMs of you being wrong and me having to do everything possible to get you to realize how wrong you were? Not only was evilution310 correct in everything he said, but I followed up his post by REINFORCING everything he said with even more detail. Please, please stop. All of this stuff we're saying is COMMON KNOWLEDGE ON THE EVO. You just got your Evo and know absolutely NOTHING ABOUT IT YET, so please stop talking about things you don't know.

A larger hotside does allow for more boost and for sustaining boost longer, but it does not...I repeat...DOES NOT allow for quicker spool. The smaller hotsides spool quicker, but can't sustain as much boost. Damnation!

And why are you questioning the measurements? Everyone already knows the 03-04 has a 9.8cm^2 while the 05-06 has a 10.5cm^2. This is common, basic knowledge...

 

Actually its a little of both. The bigger turbo works well with the mivec so therefore they work together in harmony to produce alot of power. Its not just one or the other its both.

 

Skilmatic STOP THE MADNESS!!
Read http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo5.htm
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...r/faqs.html#t3

 

Your just mad like always. Is it because.....

1) you don't have a IX

2) you still havent made it to 11's

3) you haven't thought up anymore "packages" to sell

4) all the above

None of what you said matters.
The car went to a dyno, got dynoed, got reflashed and got dynoed again.
It gained 80wtq and thats it. You were saying it didn't and I was saying it did.

On the "when you once said Al tunes to a 13:1 AFR. " quote.

There was a dynoflashed car that got dynoed and had a very big lean spike in the AFR @ 6500RPM. the chart wasn't the greatest and I misread the numbers on the side of the graph, it was a spike to 12.1 not 13.1.. When I notice that I misread the graph, I said I was wrong, apoligized and erased my post.

So STOP bring this **** up. You sound like a whinning girl.

 

Ok, kid, none of that was relevant, but whatever. I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from you. You're not smart enough to actually analyze the situation. You just see something and spew about it. You have no ability to actually understand what's happening and why things are the way they are. Kinda like reading a chart wrong then going around blasting a tuner for something that isn't true as if you are the authority on the matter. Same thing here with the MIVEC. You don't know anything - you just read and regurgitate the "what" without figuring out the "why."

Yes, that car gained 80wtq. You say it's because of the MIVEC, but then completely ignore the fact that it's stock WTQ was terribly, TERRIBLY low. Was the MIVEC just not working when the car was stock? No, the boost was just low. Think about it...

 

We werent arguing over this over pm's we were arguing over whethor or not you indeed ran those times or not and got that hp with just those parts. Thats what we were arguing over.

WARR, you are the shiznit I am not going to argue with you because you help people out to save money and time. You have helpmed me out alot with modification choices and you have been one of the few people here who have proved themselves.

I WOULD RECOMMEND EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM WHETHOR YOU BELEIVE YOUR RIGHT OR NOT DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT ARGUE WITH THIS GUY!!!!!!!!!

HE IS THE REAL DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

mother of god
This thread got off topic just a little bit

 

LISTEN I DONT CARE WHAT YOUR ARGUMENT IS. DO NOT ARGUE WITH WARRTALON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF IT WASNT FOR PEOPLE LIKE HIM ALOT OF EVO OWNERS WOULD BE WAISTING THEIR MONEY. AND THAT IS SOMEONE I RESPECT!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Your NOT god.

Other people know stuff and have experiance too. I know exactly how an engine works very well. I work on cars (EVO, WRX, DSM, hondas) all the time, actully its all I do, besides read. And I don't just read from this forum, I read from many sources and am always learning and working on cars, figuring stuff out. I know the why , how & what.