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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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Shiv, do you feel that you wasted your time, then? I dont think 33lbs would be worth it, especially if you are sacrificing the crash-protection of the car.
I don't think the time or effort was wasted. While not a huge amount of weight, it does come off the nose and tail ends of the car which will help handling response and ultimate grip levels. Might be a pretty small change but things like this do add up. Next up is a relocated smaller battery. Again, weight will be removed from high above the front driver's side tire and be relocated low and under the passenger seat. This is also a step in the right direction. All the better to keep the shiny side up (especially considering my driving habits). Our car only has 3300 miles on the clock and my front tires are already eating up its sidewalls

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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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Way to go shiv and thanks for the info - - on my WRX teh bumper beams were incredably heavy - the rear one was like a giant log ! The evo seems to yeild less fruit on the bumper beams - - but people on this board seem to not apprecaite the laws of physics - - anyway - aside from the wheels and tires the best palce I want to loose weight off the car is on the ends

my tires are showing mega wear also at 900 miles
- - they are soft - wont last long

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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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Hey Shiv, what do you have to say about all these folks running 13.6-13.7@ 100+ mph in the quarter (w/ room for improvement)? Doesn't that sound ~290HP or so just comparing w/ your various WRX packages' dragstrip results? Granted they are on 93 octane... Bit off topic but wanted to make sure you see this.

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The SCC long-term EVOs runs, as of last week, runs 102mph traps during radar testing at Palmdale. It dynos, on our Dyno Dynamics dyno, at 200 wheel hp. Every other EVO we've dyno'd has made between 180-190 wheel hp. All tested on 91 octane under nearly identical conditions. I don't want to say anymore for fear of getting flamed by the resident haters

Just throwing some facts on the table...

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PS. bri'sevo-- Don't take my comments as negative towards the EVO. I love the car... I really do. Perhaps it's my warped sense of humor that doesn't translate well over the internet.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by shiv@vishnu


The SCC long-term EVOs runs, as of last week, runs 102mph traps during radar testing at Palmdale. It dynos, on our Dyno Dynamics dyno, at 200 wheel hp. Every other EVO we've dyno'd has made between 180-190 wheel hp. All tested on 91 octane under nearly identical conditions. I don't want to say anymore for fear of getting flamed by the resident haters

Just throwing some facts on the table...

Cheers,
Shiv

PS. bri'sevo-- Don't take my comments as negative towards the EVO. I love the car... I really do. Perhaps it's my warped sense of humor that doesn't translate well over the internet.
No guys this is just shiv hese real funny if you dont get all offended about the raw nasty truth. no inflating things or covering up with him. Thats why hes so awesome.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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Hmmm, good to hear the Evo beams are too terribly heavy. I had fears they would be in order to pass US crash specifications.

When you say the battery is under the passenger seat, you mean in front or behind I hope? Either that or you're going to have your passenger riding sky-high? I hope you have a sunroof!
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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K that makes sense-- those running the 93 octane are probably on par with the 200 whp SCC car...

So....weight loss...yeah... What about the Enkei's & tires? I've heard they are actually fairly heavy-- unsprung weight really helps acceleration and braking. Any lightweight wheel/tire combos anyone recommends? Also, replacing the cat-back may lose 20-30 lbs. as the muffler is not your average straight-thru...

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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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The extra weight of the US Evo (compared to JDM) is not just because of the bumper beams, it's also the additional reinforcements behind the beams. Then of course there's the maintenance free battery adding extra weight but I see that's your next step.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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Shiv,

Did that rep ever get back to you on the horspower issues? So was the evo underrated with 91 octane? What's the trap speed with the 91 gas?
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 11:51 PM
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I'm beginning to wonder if the ringer car for the press is only limited to California with 91 octane so that the car is on par power wise with places that have 93 and 94 octane. That way the press articles or write-ups would actually be accurate for the rest of the nation. In other words, Mitsubishi compensated in the CA press car for the bad gas and gave it extra power. Just a theory.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 12:34 AM
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Carbon fiber hood and trunk + Forged magnesium rims will lighten the car more.
I rather have those done than sacrifice safety.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 12:34 AM
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iodine23-- Nope, I really did mean under the seat. Hawker makes a low profile dry cell that isn't much bigger than a large book. Should fit just fine under the seat. Nice, low and near the car's center of gravity.

theheff-- We have some Volk TE-37s going on our EVO next week. Should save a few pounds per corner. I'd be hesitant to change tires as the stock rubber is about as sticky as you can get without getting into DOT-approved race rubber (RA-1s, Victoracers, etc,.) They may be a pound or two heavier than some of the lighter carcassed max. performance tires but they certainly make up for it with better cornering and braking performance. The stock EVO pulled .94G on the skidpad last weeekend during SCC mag testing. Our race rubber (RA1)equipped Stage 2 WRX pulled only 0.03G higher.

gtr-- I've been corresponding with MMC for the last few weeks. They have been very receptive and helpful. I can't say too much now. I hope to once everything is figured out.

Cheers,
shiv

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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 01:20 AM
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Mmmmm bronze Volk TE-37s on an Evo...
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 01:39 AM
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Shiv, considering the Evo8 and STi are priced more or less the same, which car would you pick, if you have about $30k or so?

Pick one for me! Thanks
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 01:51 AM
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change the rims, they make a big difference. I lost 4kg from each wheel and the difference is very noticeable.

going to try lighter springs and shocks next.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 02:09 AM
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Originally posted by RA29
Shiv, considering the Evo8 and STi are priced more or less the same, which car would you pick, if you have about $30k or so?

Pick one for me! Thanks
Haha you beat me to it RA29! I too am curious, Shiv, which you would buy. No need to break the press embargo with details. Just your unbiased opinion of which is a better-spent 30-31K having driven both.

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