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njl,, a new suv handles better than just about any fifties or early sixties era car. do you think road courses just came into being during your lifetime?
it is not the car that is dangerous it is driving beyound your or the cars limits.

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oh, didn't mean to come off gruff.
my feeling is more people should drive road courses in older cars, you can learn a lot quicker when the car really lets you know you have hurt its feelings.
anyone with a tiny bit of skill can drive an evo around a track, it takes real skill to get a less than optimal car, or truck, around a track

 

Let us just agree to disagree on this point. To me SUVs are poorly designed vehicles no matter where you run them. Not all of them are like that, but the large majority of them are. I can see a Cayenne, X5, or the new Range Rover Sport on the track but not others.

 

I was at roebling road yesterday, and your right, a Cayenne can definitely take a road course well. There was a guy out there running with some high dollar cars successfully in a Cayenne Turbo.

 

Don't wanna go too off topic, but how many rolled SUV's have you seen on the race track, compaired ot cars? I'm not talking about on the street, but I can say I have honestly never seen a SUV roll on a road course, and I have seen lots and lots of cars go over. I t all comes down to the driver.

Scorke

 

Scorke, I'm sure that's a function of percentages. You've seen how many thousands of cars and how few SUVs? The law of averages...

 

Its not a fuction of percentages in that regard, its more a function of how MANY cars I have seen on the track and how FEW SUV's on the track in relation to them flipping. I completely understand and see where your coming from, I was just trying to emphasize the point that lots of people asssssssume things about a driver/car combo without knowing the driver.

Scorke

 

Knowing the kid who was driving it, I can say he was aware of his current situation on-track. He wasn't pushing it, in fact he and I spoke and he said he was just working on the line, in clean air, and staying out of people's way. I think, in this situation, we had an aware driver, there was no harm, because he was taking it easy and more than acute to the limitations of the SUV.

In most all other situations, SUV on track would be a NO NO.

 

How often do you get nicked by other cars when trying to pass them or them passing you? I would love to do something like that but im so afraid of someone denting my car.

 

Never, metal to metal contact in any sort of driving day is just non excusable, if you make metal contact your usually done.

Scorke

 

Stop&Turn...in your sig it says you have the AMS "Racing" FMIC but in your video it shows the their standard FMIC. Is there a difference or did you just use one too many words?

 

Cool, that makes me feel much better.

 

Most HPDE DON'T allow open-passing in any group, NASA is the only one to allow open-passing for instructor and Time Trials group. I have to admit, it is unnerving, and for those instructors with no race experience, I would STRONGLY uge them to stay in HPDE 3, which is point by only, but anywhere on the track. So essentially, you get the same ability to run, just you are sure the other guys see's you, because he will point you by.

From what I was told, it is the racing intercooler? I don't know, it may be standard, however, I could have misunderstood Martin when he was installing it.

 

I have been with NASA since the start when they were known as Open Track. Their standards at least here in CA have gone way down when it comes to instructors. It used to be that their instructors were actual racers that have raced in other organizations (SCCA, IMSA, etc...). Now all of their instructors have only raced with NASA or have ZERO racing experience. For example, the head instructor in CA region has little to no racing experience. He does not even have his own race car. NASA does not want to pay their instructors, so they pay them in free track time. You instruct for us and we will let you hotlap or race for free.

HPDE4/TT is where NASA allows open passing with caution. It is not racing, not by a long shot. It is still hotlapping but it gets you one step closer to racing. I used to think that hotlapping and racing are pretty close, boy was I wrong.

 

Agreed!