It's not about the power......it's all about handling.....vid inside.
Originally Posted by scorke
Yeah actually it does sound safe.....The person that posted that, Devin, SoloEvo happened to be my roomate, again it was safe considering the situation, which was a NASA worker driving an Explorer on track. To be honest, I think the scariest moment of that day would have to be Leh's pass of a dude who clearly didnt see him on the grass, brass *****.....
Scorke
Scorke
Leh is an experienced racer who was driving a rce prepped Supra with big fat Hoosiers. That is a safe car to drive on the track. I cannot believe that you are comparing Leh and his car to this guy and his Exploder.
It is clear to me that this guy was pushing his Exploder beyond its limits since he faded the brakes and was hopping curbs leading to two wheeling. He is lucky he did not hurt himself and anyone else in the process.
Do you have any track experience? From what you are saying you do not seem to have any.
Originally Posted by nj1266
Do you have any track experience? From what you are saying you do not seem to have any.
Scorke
Last edited by scorke; Apr 9, 2006 at 10:16 AM.
I don't think an explorer should have been out there either for safety reasons, but I just want to point out that fading brakes does not equal no brakes. I've faded Hawk Blues in the Evo many times, but never once did I lose the brakes to boiling fluid. The trick is to back off for a lap or two or just pit.
I've only seen one SUV on a course before and that was a Cayenne Turbo driven by the PCA head instructor. I typically thought SUV's and trucks were not allowed, with exception to the Lightning.
I've only seen one SUV on a course before and that was a Cayenne Turbo driven by the PCA head instructor. I typically thought SUV's and trucks were not allowed, with exception to the Lightning.
Originally Posted by scorke
Yes, I do, I don't know how this thread turned into a debate, but two wheeling and fading brakes aren't that abnormal for a race track buddy....I don't think you should be making judgements about anybodies trackworthyness here on evom.
Scorke
Scorke
People in this country are super very sensitive when it comes to the race track where you normally have people who are enthusiasts and usually go through some classes with an instructor (doesn't even matter if the guy raced or not as long as he's advanced and has a grip on laws of physics) and then when it comes to street and daily driving, nobody seems to care if you have a car that's all rusted through, if the brakes work or not, etc etc. and not to even touch the driver education which just plain sucks in this country.
Originally Posted by mayhem
I don't think an explorer should have been out there either for safety reasons, but I just want to point out that fading brakes does not equal no brakes. I've faded Hawk Blues in the Evo many times, but never once did I lose the brakes to boiling fluid. The trick is to back off for a lap or two or just pit.
I've only seen one SUV on a course before and that was a Cayenne Turbo driven by the PCA head instructor. I typically thought SUV's and trucks were not allowed, with exception to the Lightning.
I've only seen one SUV on a course before and that was a Cayenne Turbo driven by the PCA head instructor. I typically thought SUV's and trucks were not allowed, with exception to the Lightning.
Originally Posted by nj1266
I have been with NASA since the start when they were known as Open Track. Their standards at least here in CA have gone way down when it comes to instructors. It used to be that their instructors were actual racers that have raced in other organizations (SCCA, IMSA, etc...). Now all of their instructors have only raced with NASA or have ZERO racing experience. For example, the head instructor in CA region has little to no racing experience. He does not even have his own race car. NASA does not want to pay their instructors, so they pay them in free track time. You instruct for us and we will let you hotlap or race for free.
HPDE4/TT is where NASA allows open passing with caution. It is not racing, not by a long shot. It is still hotlapping but it gets you one step closer to racing. I used to think that hotlapping and racing are pretty close, boy was I wrong.
HPDE4/TT is where NASA allows open passing with caution. It is not racing, not by a long shot. It is still hotlapping but it gets you one step closer to racing. I used to think that hotlapping and racing are pretty close, boy was I wrong.
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Just added the second vid from Session 2 on Sunday to Google for easier access. It was too big for StreetFire.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...tlanta&pl=true
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...tlanta&pl=true
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I have been. They help me with parts and tuning, specifically, getting the car the exact way I want with regard to engine management at a fair price. Martin doesn't come cheap, and I GREATLY appreciate the amount of time he put into the car, and at the VERY fair price 
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