Project Weight Reduction
Originally Posted by 144mph
There are right and wrong ways to remove weight from a car, and sorry to say it Mike, but youre anorexic compulsions have exceeded what 99.99% of people would be capable of putting up with on anything but a track only car.
Also, I find some of your contradictions to be interesting as well.
You haven't taken out the AC system for 25 lbs of savings off the front end of the car (the most needed spot), because you haven't planned it out fully yet, but you just ripped the headliner and sunroof out of the car with little thought about what you would do with the gaping hole in the roof. I'm no stickler for detail, but taping a lexan panel is a pretty -ishy way to get things done.
Also, you only have a drivers seat on a four door car, no windshield wipers (immediately ticket-able offense in my state at the very least), yet you have stated that you're only going to de-pin the harnesses and remove the excess wiring as the 'last of the last'? This demonstrates a lack of attention to detail and willingness to take on complexity that will plauge your goal.
You're simply going to have to bite the bullet and spend money to go fast, just like the guys that try to keep it full weight and just keep adding HP. Dry cf hood and trunk as well as the CF doors will cost you around 3500, sure, but its weight that you simply won't be able to save without them. Lexan windshield, rear glass, and doorglass is also going to be a necessity as well as a dry cf sunroof panel if you're expecting any kudos on this car from those who know how to appreciate fine work and follow through.
I'm a _huge_ fan of weight savings, and what you do to your own car is your own business, but when you post it up on a public forum, you have to expect criticism like mine and others, particularly when the work is of questionable quality and foresight.
Also, I find some of your contradictions to be interesting as well.
You haven't taken out the AC system for 25 lbs of savings off the front end of the car (the most needed spot), because you haven't planned it out fully yet, but you just ripped the headliner and sunroof out of the car with little thought about what you would do with the gaping hole in the roof. I'm no stickler for detail, but taping a lexan panel is a pretty -ishy way to get things done.
Also, you only have a drivers seat on a four door car, no windshield wipers (immediately ticket-able offense in my state at the very least), yet you have stated that you're only going to de-pin the harnesses and remove the excess wiring as the 'last of the last'? This demonstrates a lack of attention to detail and willingness to take on complexity that will plauge your goal.
You're simply going to have to bite the bullet and spend money to go fast, just like the guys that try to keep it full weight and just keep adding HP. Dry cf hood and trunk as well as the CF doors will cost you around 3500, sure, but its weight that you simply won't be able to save without them. Lexan windshield, rear glass, and doorglass is also going to be a necessity as well as a dry cf sunroof panel if you're expecting any kudos on this car from those who know how to appreciate fine work and follow through.
I'm a _huge_ fan of weight savings, and what you do to your own car is your own business, but when you post it up on a public forum, you have to expect criticism like mine and others, particularly when the work is of questionable quality and foresight.
While using double sided mounting tape to mount the lexan piece in place of the sunroof glass is crude and an eyesore to look at, it's definitely a cheap and effective way of removing 30+ lbs of weight from the car. Of course, the "right" way of doing it would be to have a body shop weld in a piece of lightweight steel, but this would cost well over $1,000 and the result would be somewhat irreversible. At least with the way Mike did it, he can put the sunroof assembly and headliner back in the car in less than 30 minutes if he so desires. The other nice thing about doing it this way is it's physically impossible for any water to leak in. The total cost of this "mod" was under $30 including everything that was needed at Home Depot. Just because it looks like crap doesn't mean it functions like crap too. Never judge a book by its cover. It was actually tested by yours truly to be extremely safe and secure at sustained speeds in excess of 170mph.

The lack of windshield wipers or seats is again something that can easily be put back in a matter of minutes. Hacking up the factory wiring harness on the other hand represents a "point of no return" situation. So maybe that's the reason for him not doing it; as opposed to him lacking attention to detail or the "willingness to to take on complexity that will plauge your goal."
I agree that when he makes a post like this one, he has to expect criticism from others, but 99% of it is utterly useless and unintelligent rambling... i.e. "go on weight watchers" or "omg that is the sadest thing I have ever seen done to an evo wtf duct tape gimme a break." That kind of stuff is not needed; the criticism should be constructive.
Originally Posted by eevoo
My wife would sh** a brick if I did that.
no i think she would just go hummm. very intresting.
note people think i have problems for weight redution. i think its fun and gain a lot in all over the board.
Originally Posted by KillerMikeEvo
no i think she would just go hummm. very intresting.
note people think i have problems for weight redution. i think its fun and gain a lot in all over the board.
note people think i have problems for weight redution. i think its fun and gain a lot in all over the board.
I think maybe you turned your $30,000.00+ car into a $15,000.00 car by doing that. IMHO
You could have bought a beat up EVO and done this and left your 30K+ car intact.
but like you said, it's your hobby...and hobbies are expensive
You could have bought a beat up EVO and done this and left your 30K+ car intact.
but like you said, it's your hobby...and hobbies are expensive
Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83
Weight reduction starts with the driver. I'm not saying the thread starter is fat, but a lot of drivers are fatties whose diets consist of carne asada nachos and Bud Light. Maybe jogging a little bit and losing weight here and there (if you are a hefty one) would help out.
Originally Posted by Jasil
How much weight can the average person realisitically lose? I'm 6'1" and 230lbs I might be able to get to 215, but would be bodybuilder ripped if I did. Unless the person is truly way overweight and it's not because he is muscular...it's due to fat there usually isn't but 20lbs or so there. We all would healthier if we did that though.
I myself am 5ft9 and I use to be 135but I looked like i was starving now I take protein shakes to look healthy and now I am at 145.
Originally Posted by Jasil
How much weight can the average person realisitically lose? I'm 6'1" and 230lbs I might be able to get to 215, but would be bodybuilder ripped if I did. Unless the person is truly way overweight and it's not because he is muscular...it's due to fat there usually isn't but 20lbs or so there. We all would healthier if we did that though.
well maybe i can help you all and say but when i had my last car someone had hit be from behind i was at a stop and got hit at 50+ mph. car was totaled. i needed a car asap. at the time was going to be a every day car. i was never planing on doing this much to it. was just going to do bolt ons and make it a sleeper. but then somthing had happen in 3months i had changed job posison and no longer needed a every day car. which i do have 4 cars to my hands all the time. so doing this to a evo like what i did did not matter to me. also i knew a lot say they got mad what i did. but its like i got the car with 2miles on it and fell in love with this one that is why i did not sell it. and yes this is kind of my first race car if you want to put it that way. so im sure every one who did somthing first went a little way out. maybe that cleared some of every ones question. so dont get mad at me when i went nuts on a car well 30k + car. and also note even if i had a 15k car i wont have a big big turbo going 9s im not building a drag car. building a road race car were lighter is better.
Lets see... um 30k car ....
Its cool your making it light but lets see...
um 100 pounds = .1 off a quater mile approx..( correct me if im wrong.. its been a while)
It looks like a junked car now.
Might as well take out the engine ... place it into a geo metro and all you goals will be achieved...
Hell... buy a geo metro used for 500, buy a new evo engine and still be way way under 20k.. Waste of a car IMO
I would love to see the face of the next person who you sell it to.
Its cool your making it light but lets see...
um 100 pounds = .1 off a quater mile approx..( correct me if im wrong.. its been a while)
It looks like a junked car now.
Might as well take out the engine ... place it into a geo metro and all you goals will be achieved...
Hell... buy a geo metro used for 500, buy a new evo engine and still be way way under 20k.. Waste of a car IMO
I would love to see the face of the next person who you sell it to.
Originally Posted by badstainless
Lets see... um 30k car ....
Its cool your making it light but lets see...
um 100 pounds = .1 off a quater mile approx..( correct me if im wrong.. its been a while)
It looks like a junked car now.
Might as well take out the engine ... place it into a geo metro and all you goals will be achieved...
Hell... buy a geo metro used for 500, buy a new evo engine and still be way way under 20k.. Waste of a car IMO
I would love to see the face of the next person who you sell it to.
Its cool your making it light but lets see...
um 100 pounds = .1 off a quater mile approx..( correct me if im wrong.. its been a while)
It looks like a junked car now.
Might as well take out the engine ... place it into a geo metro and all you goals will be achieved...
Hell... buy a geo metro used for 500, buy a new evo engine and still be way way under 20k.. Waste of a car IMO
I would love to see the face of the next person who you sell it to.
just seems like the net is full of dumb people.
might as well have a filter on the net for dumb people and idots. and put them on there own network.
paying ~55 month for net might as well spend ~5 for dial up. to read this kind of stuff not worth loading up faster.
i would love to see the faces of the people who just follow other people and dont try somthing new and set goals for them selfs.
what i dont understand why after time and time do people post such hard comments to one. didnt your mother ever tell you if you have nothing good to say keep it to your self.
Originally Posted by badstainless
Lets see... um 30k car ....
Its cool your making it light but lets see...
um 100 pounds = .1 off a quater mile approx..( correct me if im wrong.. its been a while)
It looks like a junked car now.
Might as well take out the engine ... place it into a geo metro and all you goals will be achieved...
Hell... buy a geo metro used for 500, buy a new evo engine and still be way way under 20k.. Waste of a car IMO
I would love to see the face of the next person who you sell it to.
Its cool your making it light but lets see...
um 100 pounds = .1 off a quater mile approx..( correct me if im wrong.. its been a while)
It looks like a junked car now.
Might as well take out the engine ... place it into a geo metro and all you goals will be achieved...
Hell... buy a geo metro used for 500, buy a new evo engine and still be way way under 20k.. Waste of a car IMO
I would love to see the face of the next person who you sell it to.
Sure 100lbs = 1 tenth in the 1/4 mile, but you're failing to recognize the other benefits of weight reduction, such as greatly improved handling and braking; improved reliability (since you're taking stress off of the key weak areas); increased fuel economy; plus THOUSANDS of dollars of cash since Mike has been selling some of the parts off of his car such as the leather interior for example. Sure if he ever decides he wants to go back to stock, he will have to buy some parts to do so, but at this point I don't think he ever plans on doing that.
How can you compare the performance of a Geo Metro to an Evo? Are you feeling ok dude?



