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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by MrAWD

Not quite on the money here! DCCD controls how much open or locked that center diff is going to be. That is all it does.

Torque split is fixed on the STi and goes like 35:65 F/R and it is done through the gearing in the drivetrain.

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I remember this from our conversation at NASIOC. But I still think when you set it to full lock you have effectively 50:50. Just think how you will transfer 35:65 when the diff is locked? No way it's possible.
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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Man, people are still up for these EVO vs STi threads.
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by MrAWD

Not quite on the money here! DCCD controls how much open or locked that center diff is going to be. That is all it does.

Torque split is fixed on the STi and goes like 35:65 F/R and it is done through the gearing in the drivetrain.

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And pray tell what does opening and closing the center differential do?????

It effectively varies the torque split, according to Subaru to 6 different levels ranging from 50 - 50 to 65 - 35.
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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And pray tell what does opening and closing the center differential do?????

It effectively varies the torque split, according to Subaru to 6 different levels ranging from 50 - 50 to 65 - 35.
WOW!! So many question marks!!!!!!! I kind of almost feel intimidated by them!! Well, almost!!

Opening and closing of the diff specifies how much slip is going to be allowed to happen. Full lock - welded diff. Fully opened - open diff! 50% - it allows difference between the left and right to be that big (well close enough, simplicity wise).

Variation of the torque split happens to be the side effect of selected settings. The same way, you can have an open diff to transfer power/torque 50:50 as well as 100:0.


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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 05:00 PM
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Don't want to get into a big arguement over how different AWD/LSD systems work again. MrAWD is right atleast about the old DCCD system where it varies the lock rather than the distribuition itself. The lock will then effect the distribution. However, I've heard rumors that the new DCCD diff may be based off the automatics VTD. If that's the case then it will in fact vary the torque distribution rather than the diff lock.

Back on subject though, the STI's MSRP is official at $30,995. Don't know what can do now. With these prices the current EVO does not sit well for sales to the average joe that comes in with no prior preference towards the EVO. However, if adds all the JDM gadgets and ups the power just to make it equal on paper, they will overshoot the STI's price by several grand. Thus shooting themselves in the foot again to the average joe. They need the EVO to either have an advantage in specs, or price. Currently it has neither.
Old Apr 17, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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Back on subject though, the STI's MSRP is official at $30,995.
Where did you see that




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