skil is like the successor to umiami or something.... or he is umiami.

so what about japanese brakes are the best? and japanese suspensions compete with the best?

funny that REAL good suspensions work on ALL cars, cuz they're damn good. motons, jrz, penske and the list goes on cuz they're all basically the same company cuz they're all spin offs of each other.

i think i have to be done with this, i hope a mod cuts out all our bull**** and puts it up in off topic or some crap...

i hope they title it... trinydex discovers that skil is the new umiami

i don't even wanna requote all the crap that you said and then the stuff other people said to back what i said.

 

Uh huh. Keep playing yourself son. Maybe you need some

 

hahaha i love how you didn't come back wtih anything for a lotta the stuff that i and others said too. ah... in the end i'm laffin', so it's all good.

haha, help me umiami, help me. hahahahha.

 

Come back? Why do I need to come back to stuff that didnt even pertain to what I said? You went on and on about some viper and some F1 renault when all I said was

Then you talked nonsense about penske then after I reemed you with their actual website you then resulted to name calling and to this umiami guy. Are you sure you are ok over there?

Then after I came up with a 4banger street driven car that can beat your alms viper you then got all hissy fitted.

Whats with you?

 

wow, none of that had anything to do with the topic. Funny thing is that Tarzan drives a Viper too and would probably take the best time on any track driving my old Knight Rider big wheel if he had to. Anyway i added the video link to the first post if anyone actually is interested anymore. No vids of the simrace because i do all the video work pretty much and... well i was riding in the car.

 

i think theyre advan a043s or whatever
notice the advan sticker

 

the real question is, did YOU read the data?? you quoted penske history, of which there are less the half the NASCAR results as there are INDY stuff. they also mention the new porsche RS spyder, Champ car racing, trans am racing, SCCA road racing, formula 1 etc etc etc. i think you should call penske and as if 95% of their customers are doing NASCAR series...


also it is funny that first you said:
which in your own words interpreted by the rest of the world, penske only makes NASCAR suspension. this is in fact very wrong. next you changed your argument to say:

which again, is WRONG. they specialize in Indy cars, and nearly every other form of racing there is. they have been doing Indy for 39 years!!!!!!! NASCAR not nearly as long.

go to their webpage and look at the suspension... here i will even quote it for you:
this is pretty routine for you though... always talking about stuff you don't really know about.

 

ok, using the link you just sent me to, i did the research you obviously could not read yourself...

1958 Roger Penske drives his first official race in the SCCA National at Marlboro Motor Raceway in Maryland. After running second, his car overheats. 1959 Penske wins his first race at the SCCA Regional at Lime Rock, CT, driving an F-Modified Porsche RS. 1961 Penske is SCCA National D Modified Champ and is named Sports Illustrated SCCA Driver of the Year. 1962 Penske is named New York Times Driver of the Year. He is U.S. Auto Club's road-racing champion; his winnings total $34,350. 1963 Penske wins a NASCAR Grand National series race. 1964 Penske wins five races driving a Chaparral Corvette GS. He teams up with Hap Sharp. 1965 Penske announces retirement as a driver, and buys a Chevrolet dealership in Philadelphia.

so lets review, he races SCCA nationals in an F-mod Porsche, then he is driver of the year for SI, in a D-mod, then he is USAC's road race champion... and last, he wins NASCAR grand national series for 2 years. CLEARLY his fame and recognition is not from NASCAR. if you follow his history of his company for the next 40 years, you will see it revolves around open wheel racing, and other forms of sports car racing. the popularity of his NASCAR team is only made big because of the enormous NASCAR scene. and sense the only TV (and auto racing) you obvously watch is NASCAR, thats why you assumed 95% of what he does is NASCAR. its like saying mercedes/mclaren only does formula 1 racing, and everything they make is for formula 1. well that would be incorrect. ever watch DTM? DTM is bad freakin ***...

 

i think what's up with me is that you are exactly like this umiami guy... you argue and it makes no sense, and you make statements that are really false... you change your story and you ignore points where people corner you and you try to fall back on very generalizing statements that sound very nuetral making you sound like you're some bleeding heart. but really... you are just like umiami. i must now avoid you at all costs.

 

Your funny, indy cars also race in a oval track. The only difference between indy car racing and nascar racing is the cars themselves. Same type of racing and its also inthe US. Which is what my point is. Penske racing specializes in Nascar which is an American sport they also do other american style racing. Which is what I already said. Again read my post I already mentioned the porsche and other raaces they do but thats only 5% of what they have done. You just cut and pasted only 5% of the whole data. At least be fair and cut and paste the whole thing.


I love how you like to twist things around. Why dont you look at the facts.

 

Your right you now must avoid me at all costs because obviously I am on a higher level of intelligence than you.

I ignore points? For the last dozen times you have been arguing over somehtign that never even pertained to my original point. Which is let me post it again.

Gee where did you get penske racing out of that? Where did you come up with the alms viper and the suspension companies you named from that?

The only arguer here is you and kevind. You guys have been going back and forth arguing over somethign I never even argued about in the first place. I remember it was YOU who brought up the suspension stuff. IT WAS YOU who brought up the alms viper. IT was YOU who brought up the F1 renault. And it is still YOU who is arguing over penske racing which I have no point in arguing because that has nothign to do with my original statements.

You seriously are a work of art arent you?

Why dont you at least awknowledge my original statement for once? Instead of making up your own arguments.

 

ohhhh so now we are changing things. man, you flip flop your opinion faster then john kerry or george w bush! so it goes from "penske only makes nascar suspension" to "penske does 95% NASCAR" and now it is "penske does american racing.... and because IRL and NASCAR are both american sports, they are technically the same thing..."


right... and i will give you the prividge of posting the history, because i have already read it, and i know it includes only a fraction NASCAR related history. they clearly take more pride in the IRL, which according to you is the same thing as NASCAR, only with different cars. thats ok, japanese cars are the same thing as korean cars, just with different badges right? cause thats the logic you seem to be using...


and i soppose from your logic, because drag racing is an "american sport" that means NASCAR, IRL, NOPI, and NHRA are all the same. so by that logic, evos pretty much suck, because the fastest evo is a 9 sec quarter mile car. well ****, my pal bob norwood here has a 4000 hp integra... and beleive me, it is faster then your **** box ariel atom with a honda motor. (oh and bobs integra doesn't use a japanese motor. he makes his own). and because we are comparing apples to watermelons, it is a good comparision.

 

spelling pwns you......

 

man, why you so dumb? i pointed out your original statement... you already conceded that it was poorly worded in one of your coverups.

reading pwns you too cuz i never brought up penske, but you did bring up something stupid about how tein and such suspension companies are "world class" when they don't even use tein on your precious jgtc nsx (you totally ignored the facts that other member posted up).

what was that? brakes? yeah glad that nsx uses alcon ap brakes too... what did you say about japanese brakes being so great? glad you ignore that one too.

japanese cars are tuned for perfection... so are american cars... you just choose not to see it. you're probably one of those people that doesn't realise that vettes compete in autocross and are the cars to beat there and at roadrace competitions... why do you think people wanna build a vette and viper killers in the first place? it's really not cuz they're slow...

seirously... your existence must be a chore...

 

This just keeps getting better. I got some more fuel for the fire: Advans vs BFGoodrich