I am new here but this is my second evo, i bought my first evo september of 2003, after awhile i got into german cars and got a 2000 audi s4 which i got to run 12s, when that started falling apart because it was a piece of sh** i got a 2005 bmw m3, that was too damn expensive to modify so i sold it and jsut bought a new evo IX MR. I put my full perrin turbo back exhaust with race pipe on it and not im stuck. i want to get the car to break into the 11's so i can compete with my brothers 520 whp 05 STi, but i want to keep the stock turbo and ecu as long as i can. so please if anyone has advise for me please help me out. so far i have been looking at alot of buschur parts but they gave me a list of parts such astheir intercooler and upper i/c piping, mini battery, hks 272 exhaust camshaft, 255 fuel pump, timing belt, hks racing suction intake and an ecu reflash. i have seen people with only some of these parts and are saying low 12's and like 350 whp, but i talked to the guys at buschur about how much hp this should push and they said like 320 to the wheels. i need to know if anyone has a similar set up and what i can really expect or if anyone has a better set up. thanks alot.
-Scott

 

Ixs are super hard to get into the 11's, man. Have you searched at all?





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hah i know exactly what youre saying about german cars, i was in the same boat as you. EXPENSIVE as hell to mod and they fall apart to quickly. I sold my M3 for an evo as well for the same reason as you. I have been researching evo modding for a few months now, and the buschur/warrtalon package seems to be the best way and most cost efficient way to start. As soon as i get a little extra money thats what im going to go with.

 

ive been searching everywhere for the past month and a half. i went to altered atmosphere in gaithersburg today and talked to them and they suggested the same stuff more or less as what buschur told me just by different brands and instead of a reflash getting the aem plug and play but i was never a big fan of aem and im also not trying to get a ful ems yet unless thats the only way.

Also about the warrtalon/buschur kit, that says full 3 inch exhaust turbo back, a manual boost controller, and an euc flash, plus the guages which dont add power. but that says 330 whp and can run a 12.26 on pump. so if im doing all that plus the 272 camshaft and the front mount with upper and lower i/c piping and intake and a fuel pump that shouldnt that be pushing 350 hp or more to the wheels plus be breaking into the 11's?

 

If Buschur said 320whp thats probably on the MD dyno not a dyno get. where the WT is on a dynojet I do beleive. Their is a big difference there. If u look at the Buschur stages they tell u pretty much what to get for best bang for the buck. They also have a "pure power" package aswell. alot of the numbers that are thrown around are dynojet numbers cause they were the industy standard for a long time.

 

You have an evo ix , I think a lot of people will tell you that a fuel pump upgrade and an intake are a waste of money. Just letting you know that but the factory intake box is already very good and the fuel pump in the ix is supposedly already upgraded from the viii.

 

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Look at his track times and the few mods he has. Also MostWanted ran 11.5 (good driver) with few mods. Send him a pm or search and see what he has on his. 320whp on Buschur's dyno is like 350 on a dyno jet. Pm Warrtalon, he will guide you.

 

Yes, it's probably confusion between Dynojet and Mustang dyno numbers. The 330whp you see in my sig is not what gets you the 12.26. The 300whp for the VIII package got me a 12.26 on 93oct. A IX with the same mods can go 3mph faster and run 12.0-12.1 with good driving. The single exhaust cam, ic piping, and FMIC don't really add much power, if any. You would just want to do tbe, mbc, licp, o2, and flash. Then, wait to see if the GSC 280 cams make good power. After that, toss on alky, and you have a mid-11s Evo on the stock turbo.

PS. Do not listen or even talk to Altered Atmosphere - they really have no clue with Evos. If you want a shop to talk to in the DC area, talk to VIP Garage.

 

go with buschur stage one and two. best bang for the buck. you cant use hks cams cuz they dont have an intake cam that will work with the ix, you can only use there exhaust cam. turbo trixs have cams for the ix try those.

 

Stage 2 isn't needed.

He didn't say HKS cams, he said HKS exhaust cam (singular). The TT cams cost $900 and haven't shown that they make any power yet.

 

Thanks alot for all of the advise from everyone, i would still love tips and suggestions. And thank you Warrtalon for your opinions, it will definitly save me some money there by holding off on the cam and FMIC and piping and if ya see this i was wondering what you thought were the best to go with for the "You would just want to do tbe, mbc, licp, o2, and flash" you suggested. also i was looking for towards an electronic boost controller, i know its more money but my brother has told me to stay away from mbc's has really liked the electronics such as the greddy or hks, but please give me your advise, im glad i waited to order all the parts they told me too and posted this to get more facts. Also thanks for a good shop in my area. thanks again
-Scott

 

There's nothing wrong with a QUALITY MBC (either Hallman Pro or Forge UNOS)... they're a fraction of the prices and work awesome.

 

Well, here's the thing. I'm sponsored by Buschur, so I of course want you to bring them more business, but I'm not going to lead you in a direction I don't think is best for your current situation. Even if you go to VIP to get work done, I'd still want you to get BR products when the need arises.

I wouldn't listen to your brother either. I think it's quite telling that he says to use "HKS or Greddy" as if he is constantly glued to Sport Compact magazine or something. There's absolutely no reason to stay away from an MBC, and spending a bunch of money on the HKS or Greddy name is not the way to make power on an Evo.

For the mods I listed, I still say to go to Buschur by getting the Warrtalon package, but don't you already have a TBE? I don't know why people use Perrin or bother with their products, but I'm guessing you didn't plan to buy another TBE unless I'm mistaken. For the other 4 parts, I'd suggest:

MBC = Forge UNOS
LICP = Buschur IX LICP
O2 = Buschur Coated SS O2 (or standard non-coated Ebay SS O2)
Flash = Dynoflash

 

Thanks alot, yeah my brothers just hardcore into quality, hes had two pretty decked out wrx's each low 11's and he has the money to spend on his car, unlike me lol, so i guess thats why he goes for the top dollar parts, but i will definitly look into those parts, and the perrin exhaust is from my old evo 8, i live in carroll county, maryland and the cops are crazy my other cars exhausts were the slash cut tip with the carbon fiber mufflers or a shinny chrome muffler, and the cops love to give out tickets for modified exhaust so after numerous tickets i decided to get the perrin exhaust which has the stock look but still sounds and performs well, i would never buy anything else perrin as ive seen the junk my brother has mistakenly bought and had to replace from them. so i think ill be ordering just about all those parts from buschur within the week or so, i will keep you all informed and let you now how the instal goes and how the car performs when its all said and done. thanks everyone

 

BR/Warrtalon package.Then,GSC 280 cam + LICP + Alky + BOV(After 25psi).After that,get ECUFlash,Tactrix cable and EVOlog software(???) to tune yourself(If you have the confidence) or Dynoflash!!