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Secret way to add back 30-40HP????

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Old May 8, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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Someone remove their manifold already!

It seems a little too good to be true....and when something seems to good to be true, it usually is.

SC~ who was born a skeptic.
Old May 8, 2003 | 09:46 AM
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Just spoke to a local tuner who has an Evo and he said there is no truth to this. He has taken the turbo apart four or five times and confirms that there is only one gasket between the turbo and exhaust manifold. This is one for the urban legend books!!
Old May 8, 2003 | 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by EVOLUTION/RC51
Just spoke to a local tuner who has an Evo and he said there is no truth to this. He has taken the turbo apart four or five times and confirms that there is only one gasket between the turbo and exhaust manifold. This is one for the urban legend books!!
Maybe the tuner does not want the secret out.
This could hurt sales big time!
Old May 8, 2003 | 10:04 AM
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Maybe the tuner does not want the secret out.
This could hurt sales big time!
It's possible but I doubt it. He did say however that maybe they got a special Evo from
Believe me I want this to be true just as much as everybody else. But.... sorry.
Old May 8, 2003 | 10:55 AM
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Would this be something along the lines of the 32mm turbo restrictor that all the wrc cars have to use. If that is the case, removing it in principle would generate that sort of HP gain.
The restrictor plates used on race cars are placed on the air intake side of the engine.
Old May 8, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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here is something to think about. i had a turbo Z back in da day.. and i had to put on a muffler real quick(it had a 2 1/4 in out let and i gained some low end but lost about 800 rpms of the powerband and about 1lb of boost. this was a restriction after the turbo though. when i opened it up to a 3 in i felt more power all the way to the stock rev limiter (7K) and i gained about a lb and 1/2 of boost with the valve all the way open. hoep this helps. but if you a restriction before the turbo the velocity will be the same... but not the volume. hence a hose as an example. if you put a small crimp on it the water does not really slow down... but you do not get teh same amount of GPM(gallons per minute) if you crimp it more however the velocity would largely increase but teh volume would be very minimal. in other words the restrictor would cause more back pressure which could accomidate the higher end rich fuel situation.

please correct me if i am wrong

hope this helps though

JOE
Old May 8, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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If you guys just wait there will be a whole slew of performance stuff from the factory from and ralliart,trust me that is true about the gasket. was kind enough to give us evo owner a 5 year warrenty when before it was going to have to be purchase like the viper or TT porshe.They did those restrictions for a reason.
Old May 8, 2003 | 12:07 PM
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- dying to know. Im trying to decide wether to wait out for the STi or splurge on the EVO..... this could be my deciding factor for the missing HP
Old May 8, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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How convenient, leaked this information just before the STI goes on sale.

I want to hear the results from an independent party.
I don't want to hear from tuners.
Someone start turning a wrench!!!!
Old May 8, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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OZ Rally guy:

You need to have the Tech come on here, or at least have Fireball coroborate what you say the tech said. Fireball has credibility on here, whereas you don't (at least yet, anyway). Like SC said--it sounds too good to be true. They COULD have changed the exhaust manifold , but all of this is conjecture at this point. After all the rumor garbage pre evo release, the last thing we want is another one.
Old May 8, 2003 | 01:24 PM
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I'd pull the damn thing off my car if I were not home sick... hell, I'm to laid up to jerk off... I seriously doubt this to be true though... unless the "restrictor" were to be at a different location...
Old May 8, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by atlvalet
OZ Rally guy:

You need to have the Tech come on here, or at least have Fireball coroborate what you say the tech said. Fireball has credibility on here, whereas you don't (at least yet, anyway). Like SC said--it sounds too good to be true. They COULD have changed the exhaust manifold , but all of this is conjecture at this point. After all the rumor garbage pre evo release, the last thing we want is another one.
I work at the place that started the rumor. However, there's no documented proof, just a lot of "I heard this". I'm waiting for someone to pull their turbo off and look. Pictures are a must as well.

However, I've also heard, if you do this (and it works), it's pretty much an insta-void of your warranty if you have any engine related problems and they notice that you made this modification.
Old May 8, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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30 to 40 Hp ?

5 to 10 Hp looks more in line, If this is True........

RALLY ON ///////////////////
Old May 8, 2003 | 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by TOMMY B


30 to 40 Hp ?

5 to 10 Hp looks more in line, If this is True........

RALLY ON ///////////////////
I would not guess a lower hp difference until I knew the oriface size difference. If there is a big difference it could be a big restriction.
Old May 8, 2003 | 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by Lee


Or simply due to the fact your running on lower Octane then what we run here in Japland. IIRC as stated on the press release "specially tuned for gasoline octane numbers used in the U.S." course you know why...to conform to your emission regulations. I don't think the small gain is substantial unless it really exist!...when most of you, I assume will start dropping in 2835 or 3037S once the car is run in.

Cheers
T
That's because the US and Japan use different formulas for determining octane ratings.

(https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...e+rating+japan)

(http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasol.../preamble.html)



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