the only honda car that has anything based in F1 tech is the s2000, i had one it was fun an all even had it supercharged but it wasnt great

and if ya dont belive me, i have crash pics........ (OWW)

 

originally posted by: Boosted
What about the NSX? I heard a few good things about that car...... Hmmm maybe they were just rumors.

Also there was an Integra (RSX) type R with minor mods; suspension, exhaust, mild computer tweaking in an options video that ran the Tsukuba track in 1:07 sec.

Just for your info ( Honda bashers ) that's just as fast as a stock Evo Vll and stock R34 GTR around this same circuit.

Mitsubishi might be on the same level of build quality and reliability as Honda but they're not on the same level when it comes to re-sale value.

 

may 6/2002 and you guys bring this tread back to live stop replying to this post let it go guys

admin try to delted the older post so it wont confuse ppl


and talk about resale value who really cares if you gonna keep a car for a long time "it's fun to drive" FF car is never gonna be as fun as 4wd or FR drive trin

so dont compare a cheap FF car to 4wd or FR car

 

it could be a crash pic of someone's else s2k you download it from web site LOL

j/k
all good all good

 

Mitsubishi might be on the same level of build quality and reliability as Honda but they're not on the same level when it comes to re-sale value. [/B][/QUOTE]

Not yet, but with the evo and the coming new cars, it will just be time before the US market absorbs the mitsubishi cars.

 

Nismo, where do u find those ridiculous icons? that one makes no sense whatsoever

 

Guys its no use comparing cars all car break due to normal wear and tear, also depending on who the trasher is . All cars are reliable as far technology goes nowadays or else how would these cars pass all the compliance test and safety tests. Its at the end of the day the costs of running the car and the price of the spare parts. Mitsu and Nissan are moderately priced as far as I know but Hondas are terrible as even Japanese claimed its too bloody expensive. Subaru and Mazda parts are quite cheap.
So choose yours well.

 

My father owns an automotive shop (Specializing in Jap cars) here in south Fl. They work on ALL cars.. I can tell you this, Honda's are excellent cars. are also excellent cars.. Provided that you service them correctly, with quality parts!! Although, they usually have more Honda's in rather than Mitsu's.. Now maybe that's because there could be more Honda's out there.. Who knows.. But! Everytime you get a Honda that sports an exhaust, intake, and is really riced out.. they ALWAYS start smoking and breaking. Now Honda is a good car, but it is not meant for the abuse of aftermarket performance unless it is totally rebuilt to handle it.. On the other hand, seems to be ready and willing to take what you throw at it.. Let me tell you, I abuse the **** outa my DSM and my baby keeps on going.. Runs consistant 12's with 135,000 miles on the stock motor.. just bolt on's.. Engine has not been touched.. So, you can be the judge, I prefer the DSM over Honda anytime for performance...

 

haha yea nismo....where do u get yr avatars? this one is cute...the chinese words mean "is yr guy a sex-maniac?" but with a little twist?...haha....my chinese realli sucks so plz correct my translation.

 

RSX Type S and EVOs are two totally different vehicles aimed at totally different markets of the buying public. The EVO is aimed at all-weather utliity for a family of five with outrageous power at the expense of some comfort and convenience, while the RXS Type S is aimed at strong performance but only to a point where it doesnt take away from top-notch fit and finish, accoutrements, passenger amenities, and so forth at the price point to compete in its particular market.

If you add more power to the Acura, you need to take away its incredible interior layout and goodies that make all Acuras among the best in the world to sell it at the same price. Something must always give. Or you simply charge more for the car.

The EVO has more power all around and more grip in the bad weather and more functionality. The RXS has far more refinement, is more liveable as a daily driver, will make you feel like youre driving a BMW without the cost of a BMW, and is a nice compromise between sport and luxury.

Two completely different vehicles.

As far as build quality, Honda sells more cars in a month than Mitsubishi probably does in a year. Whether its merely perception or not, the buying public sure believes Honda makes a better product. If its purely perception, Mitsu has a serious problem in their advertising and marketing department. Overall, Mitsu and Honda/Acura compete for the same customers sans a couple particular models (Evo, S2000, NSX). Both are capable of nice cars that exhibit sheer boredom (Lancer, Civic) or sheer terror (Evo, NSX).

Not that it matters, but could I have any car from either company, I'd take the NSX hands down. Of course, at $80,000, it BETTER be one hell of a car. Fortunately, it is. Then again, so is the EVO at less than half the price. NSXs may be the most reliable exotic ever built. Guy down the street has one with 165K on it and it drives like its brand new. I once asked him what kind of maintenance it needed. He said hew didn't know because he never gave it any.

 

Well I guess its my turn....

Rule number 1: Open differentials SUCK, especially on a FWD. At least the typeR had a limited slip differential.

I had a 95 GST for years and the only problems I had was a blown shock from autoxin'. I sold it at 108k miles. It gave me an excuse to upgrade to koni's. It was a good car over all. The interior was crap but what do you expect. I bought the car for $18,300, it was a stripped GST. The thing that bothered me the most was 210hp+ with an open diff on a FWD car. If I had known I was going to autox and attend track-driving schools, I would have bought the GSX. Live and learn....

I now own an S2000. Its a blast. It takes some getting used to. When racing it, you have to be very conscious of the 6k mark. If you drop below it, its like climbing out of a hole. If a course is setup where you can keep the revs up, its hard to beat. The handling is very predictable and neutral. It was the first RWD sports car I have owned and took some getting used to. If you are the type of person that likes to spend money on upgrades for performance, then a honda/acrua is not for you. Most exhaust systems lose hp and cost $900-$1500 for the S2000. A $300 CAI will add like 5hp if you're lucky. The only upgrade that makes a difference is the $5000 supercharger kit, which still doesn't really help the 6k problem. The other problem is the fact that its a convertible. I have had a time finding driving schools that will allow it without an SCCA approved rollbar which there is NO room for. I am probably going to get rid of it for an EVO so I can attend events at VIR.

With the GST and stock exhaust, I bought $125 K&N cone, $125 BOV and upper IC pipe, removed a few restrictors and I could peg the boost to 18 PSI. With a Fuel Pump, exhaust, 16G, and MBC, you could do some sick ****.

I do miss the turbo!

smanders

 

Didn't Mitsubishi try to hide all the complaints from auditors a year ago? I own both a 95 Civic Ex and a 1997 Eclipse GSX. The Civic has been flawless. Just bring that thing to Jiffy Lube every 3 months and it just keeps going. The GSX hasn't been all that bad but not as good as the Civic. Also, I know for a fact that old Type R motors are worth gold while the old 4G63's are good paperweights.

 

Paperweight? Right now (and it has been like that for a while), there is no other engine that can be easier to modify and run the numbers that runs except the 4G63. Bunch of my friends are running those all the time (some as a daily drivers, some race only cars and most as both) and HP numbers are around 400 HP or even higher. Those engines last and there is no other one that I am aware of that can withstand such an abuse as 4G63.

If you are talking about every day driving that is a different story, and I don't even wona go there. But for something that will run 12s all day long in a 3000 lb car, there is nothing that comes even close to it.

Mr. AWD

 

the corolla engine last too. i have been high reving (around 6000 RPM) it over many time now. give it so much abuse and it keeps on going the only thing i have to have was the head gasket. i guess it give up from all that high reving. just to keep up with my friend with an Eclipse GSX

 

And running the same boost levels? Most of our 4G63 are running 8k RMP redline and they are doing just fine. Boost goes over 25 psi and that is with the stock bottom end. Hard to match with any other car manufacturer!

Mr. AWD