Wow thanks folks, i got a lot of info now. My last deciding factor will be a test drive of both of them. In the begining i was leaning to the Evo, ive always loved it, but then it was the sti, after reading more, now its back to the Evo. I think ill try and get some opinions from the Subaru boards. Well i know the 4g63 is a monster, down here the DSMs run the place. Running 11s and 12s. I Kind of want an LSD in the front on the EVO, and really that AVC. But im sure i can find aftermarket stuff. I never thought about that the new Sti engine was "new", kinda slipped my mind. Well thanks again, folks over here are pretty informative, not to mention a bit nicer, lol.