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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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what are you guys talking about ?



Stock advans are a high performance soft compound tire, thats why they wear quicker. Your standard h-z rated tire that all season tire that wears within 40-60k miles when compared to the advans that last 12k.

Just some quick infomation.

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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Any summer tire is not designed for temps below 40 degrees
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakeg97
Any summer tire is not designed for temps below 40 degrees
They may not be designed for those temps, but that doesn't mean they don't work well.

My ABS engages far quicker with my all seasons and snow tires at the temps we're talking about than my Advans. They also spin more when accelerating fast out of slow corners. I wouldn't suggest fast accelerating out of corners at freezing temps though.
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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I worried about getting another set of winter tires/rims too. I have driven on hard packed snow/ice without problems. Sure, winter tires would help...but we only get 1-3 real snows a year and I'm not going to buy another set of rims/tires for that. I didn't think that it was that bad really....

My Advans with thump like a **** unit they warm up!
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CDO
They may not be designed for those temps, but that doesn't mean they don't work well.

imo , using any tire above or below its designed function is asking for trouble
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by runin1320
I have driven on hard packed snow/ice without problems.
I played with my Advans in the snow and my car just refused to slow down when I applied the brakes. On packed snow even as slow as 3mph the ABS would engage and the car would take forever to stop. The car accelerated and cornered fine, but basically no brakes. Scary as hell.
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakeg97
imo , using any tire above or below its designed function is asking for trouble
Well, as someone posted above from Mitsubishi, they "recommend" other tires in below freezing weather (32F). I think the warning sticker on my car door said not to use them at 14F and colder.

Edit: That 14 degrees may have been celsius. I don't remember. Not that I know what 14C is. LOL
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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Had first snowfall here in Boston yesterday (about 0.5")... scared me to death just going around the block in Advans (only 2500mi on them too)... so needless to say, I ordered some Hankook Icebear W300's... $424 shipped from DiscountTireDirect.com

Hopefully they get here before next snowfall
... talkin about the spun out ... on ramp.... scared the hell out of me ... lol....
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CDO
Well, as someone posted above from Mitsubishi, they "recommend" other tires in below freezing weather (32F). I think the warning sticker on my car door said not to use them at 14F and colder.

Edit: That 14 degrees may have been celsius. I don't remember. Not that I know what 14C is. LOL
14 degree Celsius = 57.2 degree Fahrenheit

The rubber compound in a summer tire does not maintain elasticity in cold weather. The grip level of the tire degrades drastically in cold temperatures even on dry pavement. In the cold, a summer tire becomes unpredictable and feels “slippery” when cornering no matter what the weather. This problem is compounded in wet or snowy conditions.
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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Yup, what he said.


For future reference:

°F= (9/5)*°C + 32
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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This question comes up every freakin winter. It is HIGHLY NOT RECOMMENDED to use them in the winter, let alone snow. Mitsubishi tells you not to use them in the colder weather for a reason. I'm sure we'll see, "I crashed my evo" threads pop up for the people too ignorant and cheap to invest in good winter tires.
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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Yeah it seems to come up in the honda forums every year too. ALL i know is that I had the BF goodrich gfocre ta KDW2's, which are great in the rain, on my integra and we got an early snow up in erie (~2in) and I could not even pull out of a flat parking lot, so it just sat for a while. It's just not worth risking it is everyones point.
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakeg97
14 degree Celsius = 57.2 degree Fahrenheit

The rubber compound in a summer tire does not maintain elasticity in cold weather. The grip level of the tire degrades drastically in cold temperatures even on dry pavement. In the cold, a summer tire becomes unpredictable and feels “slippery” when cornering no matter what the weather. This problem is compounded in wet or snowy conditions.
I agree the grip degrades. It's very apparent in corners in very cold weather. Not so much in braking though.

However, all seasons and winter tires have less grip to start with. At some temp their grip exceeds the Advans, where that is I don't recall. But at 35-40 degrees (when I switched over this year) my Advans hands down beat my other tires in all categories. (I had all 3 on my car in a week's time this year)

The only reason I swapped out my Advans at that temp was because we had snow forecast.
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 12:50 AM
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Ok so now that the majority agrees that these advans are dangerous in the winter....which tires are most affordable/best for winter, stay 235s or go 245s? Um I figure if a company(mitsu) goes out of their way to mark a warning on our car doors obviously its going to be a risk factor using the tires. It doesn't snow where I live but it does rain a lot and temps get down to about 40-50 so I guess I should go get a 2nd set of tires. But I can't afford any other rims :[ so....what tires do you guys recommend?
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 06:55 AM
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I used to have some UHP Summer tires on my sentra, and I couldn't even pull forward out of a parking lot with them. No way I was gonna leave the Advans on my Evo for the winter, that's just asking for trouble IMO.
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