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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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I was given a ticket today for 18 over in a 30 mph zone. My question is do cops have to keep you in sight after they clock your speed? The cop clocked my speed and then he made a u-turn in the middle of the road. He lost sight of me and I turned into a neighborhood and pulled into a driveway. He passed the house then saw me on his return trip out of the neighborhood. Should I get a lawyer and beat the case?
Old Feb 2, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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were you speeding?
There is an equation that is solved by using the time it takes for the cars to pass each other and how fast he was driving. If he knew that he can easily know how fast you were going?

Like one of those elementary school words problems...
Old Feb 2, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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Oh yeah.....and no they dont have to keep you in sight.
Any number of things can cause them to lose sight of you when attempting to pull you over.
Old Feb 3, 2007 | 05:03 AM
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Well I saw him turning around and I got around a bend in the road and punched it. I am surpised he saw where I turned and how I was hiding in some random persons driveway
Old Feb 3, 2007 | 05:49 AM
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Did he turn his lights on once he saw you? Or did he just turn around and chase you? I have heard that if you pull over and turn off your car (before they turn on the lights) then they cant do anything. But if they already are in persuit it wont matter if you stop or loose sight of him.

But that story reminds me of something similar...I was going down a street and a cop went to turn around right before I went to turn into my friends apartment complex. I gunned it into the complex but he saw me turne and freaked on me for turning. HE kept asking me why I turned, who lives here, etc. It was hysterical.
Old Feb 3, 2007 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by prj.evo
Did he turn his lights on once he saw you? Or did he just turn around and chase you? I have heard that if you pull over and turn off your car (before they turn on the lights) then they cant do anything. But if they already are in persuit it wont matter if you stop or loose sight of him.
So you can do 90mph in a school zone while cutting off an emergency vehicle and WOT on your test pipe, but as long as you veer to the curb and shut off the engine, the cop can only drive by and say "SHUCKS! I DIDN'T TURN MY LIGHTS ON FAST ENOUGH!"

O.P. - You may be able to beat a surcharge with traffic school, but speeding is speeding... it's not likely to be 100% dismissed
Old Feb 3, 2007 | 06:08 AM
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So you can do 90mph in a school zone while cutting off an emergency vehicle and WOT on your test pipe, but as long as you veer to the curb and shut off the engine, the cop can only drive by and say "SHUCKS! I DIDN'T TURN MY LIGHTS ON FAST ENOUGH!"

O.P. - You may be able to beat a surcharge with traffic school, but speeding is speeding... it's not likely to be 100% dismissed
You would have to be a pretty awful cop to not turn on your lights if someone was doing that.
Old Feb 3, 2007 | 06:09 AM
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the tickets yours dude....he had the right to give it because you were speeding on a public road......get this one..: by law they do NOT have to use the radar gun to give you a ticket......in police training they have to look at a car and get the MPH within +or-2MPH (i think its 2) like 10 times in a row. this is the CHUBBY OF JUSTICE
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I say call a lawyer and ask them. See if its worth it. But if its just the one ticket and your not already on supervision, then just request court supervision.
Old Feb 3, 2007 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by prj.evo
Did he turn his lights on once he saw you? Or did he just turn around and chase you? I have heard that if you pull over and turn off your car (before they turn on the lights) then they cant do anything. But if they already are in persuit it wont matter if you stop or loose sight of him.

But that story reminds me of something similar...I was going down a street and a cop went to turn around right before I went to turn into my friends apartment complex. I gunned it into the complex but he saw me turne and freaked on me for turning. HE kept asking me why I turned, who lives here, etc. It was hysterical.

You heard wrong. Turning on the light has nothing to do with anything. If you are already pulled over...done. The lights are used to signal you that you should pull over. But since you are already over...

The officer saw your car, clocked it, remembered it and got you. They can lose sight of you as long as they can describe your car and remeber what it looked like.

Hopefully the driveway was somebody you know. If you pull your car in someone elses driveway that you don't know and park it there...that is considered trespassing. If you "gun it" to get away ( Which clearly you are doing) the cop could be a dick and get you for fleeing ( Not likely, but I have seen it before).
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the tickets yours dude....he had the right to give it because you were speeding on a public road......get this one..: by law they do NOT have to use the radar gun to give you a ticket......in police training they have to look at a car and get the MPH within +or-2MPH (i think its 2) like 10 times in a row. this is the CHUBBY OF JUSTICE
This is not necessarily true. I was pulled over for going 16 over and I asked to see the radar. The cop would not show it to me (and he doesnt have to if he doesnt want to). I went to court and the cop admitted to never radaring me at all. The ticket was dropped.
Old Feb 3, 2007 | 06:36 AM
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How old are you and do you have a clean record? If so try for court supervision like stated before. Do what you can to keep the ticket off of your record. Some states let you pay double and they drop the charge. It's all a money racket, sometimes safety can be involved, but for the most part, monies monies monies.
Old Feb 3, 2007 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gbpkr21
Hopefully the driveway was somebody you know. If you pull your car in someone elses driveway that you don't know and park it there...that is considered trespassing. If you "gun it" to get away ( Which clearly you are doing) the cop could be a dick and get you for fleeing ( Not likely, but I have seen it before).
It was a random driveway and he said he had a hunch I ddn't know anyone in the house. I never really responded. At no point in pursuit did he ever turn on his lights, he said this is the reason I was not going to jail for evading the police. He didn't ask for my insurance and registration just my liscence if that makes a difference. You should have seen his face when I blew a zero on the breathalizer; he had to explain to me where to put my mouth. I am 19 and have a clean record with zero tickets. In Georgia 14-18mph=2 points on your record. I dont mind fees or community service I just don't want insurance to increase or realize I got a ticket.
Old Feb 3, 2007 | 08:22 AM
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Get an attorney or pay the ticket, and slow down in residential areas.
Old Feb 4, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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Some of you guys are hilarious. Where do you guys get rules about speeding, turning lights on, or losing sight?

Cops dont need to turn lights on, keep sight of you or to get you on radar to give you a citation for speeding. When you get a ticket, all the ticket is doing is saying that the officer has reasonable belief/evidence a violation or crime has been committed. Statutes for speeding are not written with much complexity. Nowhere in any statute that I have come across does it say in order to charge you with violating a statute the attesting officer has to turn his lights on, get you with radar, etc.

What may happen if an officer loses sight of you, or doesnt get you on radar is the creation of reasonable doubt that you violated said statute. The more reasonable doubt the more chance you will be found not guilty of the crime/violation. Because the cop didnt have his light on, he probably figured he couldnt prove you were evading responsibility beyond a reasonable doubt. But like I said, it is hardly believable that there are these so called rules saying cops have to have you on radar or have to have their lights on.



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