yes you right this car didn't meant to be a drag racer, but:
this car made for race.They have they own category in rally.And the mitshu made this car for that category.In that category you can't change drive train,tranny, and no engine modifications. no major parts can be modified. if i remeber it was a grouppe N./not noobe/ But almost every country have different name for diff. levels. Why you don't state that too, we all, who has 5 speed, running the Evo 7 tranny?
And a reason: to sell the car cheaper here. nobody ever wonder why is so much diff. between prices USA vs all world?

 

The road racing instruction manual I've got here says to treat the transmission shift lever as if it were attached by a glass rod. If you "power-shift" an AWD car, be prepared to spend some bux on new parts very frequently.
I agree the problems are mostly kids who don't know how to drive a manual, compounded by the Fast and the Furious artificial subculture. I'm sure there are a few exceptions to the rule, however, but most problems are driver-related. Now, the six speed does seem to have a weakness in the fourth gear ring, itself, though. But since I don't road race this car (or street race, lol) I don't expect problems with that or the clutch over the time I own it (probably 60K or so).

 

There's a difference in driving hard and driving like an idiot. If you bang gears, dump the clutch, or don't speed match gear changes, expect to have problems.

If you only apply throttle when your foot isn't touching the clutch at all, if you blip the throttle on downshifts to take strain off of the clutch while re-engaging, if you don't ride the clutch pedal or cruise with your hand on the shifter like you're always waiting for the chance to downshift and jump on the sucka next to you in traffic, then you'll be fine. My two previous Evos never had a single problem even with both of them being on the stock clutch and over 300WHP.

Beyond that, keep the "you gotta pay to play" phrase in your mind. If you say that an exhaust has no affect on your transmission, you're wrong. You cause the car to create extra power that the car's reliability wasn't designed to handle. If it was, then why didn't it come with that extra power. Extra performance usually yields a decrease in reliability.

Fast. Cheap. Reliable...Pick two.

 

Well it makes sense the more you abuse it the higher the chances of grinding your synchros. Either that or they're trying to avoid performing warranty work because they don't make any money at all when warranty work is done.

 

if i'm right the dealer ship has to pay something like $500 its own, and above all its covered from Mitshubishi, + free labor.
so basicly cost alots of money the dealership, to fix under warranty the car.If i'm right.
anybody knows its true?

 

You can bet the dealer's service dept. is NOT out even one dollar of their own money on warranty repairs!

Tell you a little story about Dodge - I had a Ram pickup that needed TWO fuel pumps (due to defective pumps supplied by their supplier), each requiring the tank to be dropped, around 700 bucks per... well, they kept replacing them, putting in the same defective pumps until the supplier started sending good ones. They knew what they were doing, but it paid well, I guess...
They also put in a new battery for me under warranty (nothing wrong with the one that came with it - just thought it needed a bigger, newer one) and did front brakes (rotors, calipers, pads, the whole nine yards) like three times (they were defective and known issue as well).
I must've gotten 15K in free warranty work on that truck - and they were smiling all the way to the bank!

 

thanks for clarifying MJ i dont think my clutch is engauged. i was told how to test it. put the car in the air on jackstands, start it and hold the clutch down and if the wheels spin, then it needs to be re-adjusted. mine doesn't though so it should be good, right?

 

I have 50,000 miles and no tranny problems the facotry clutch went long time ago but no tranny problems

 

Very well said. Lots of abuse going on. That should be a lesson to new owners. OBEY THE BREAKIN PERIOD! haha.

 

Well, fellas here it is......two service guys drove my car today and neither one felt there was a problem. My receipt says "ROADTESTED SEVERAL TIMES - NO GRINDING HEARD IN ANY GEAR WHILE SHIFTING. NO REPAIRS NECESSARY. PROBABLY NOT DEPRESSING THE CLUTCH ALL THE WAY DURING SHIFT".
No, you cannot HEAR any grinding.... you can FEEL the gears grinding through the shift handle. So there you have it... its got to be bad enough to hear the gears grinding before they'll do anything about it.

 

They just need to make beefier synchros, it would eliminate the warranty problems and extend the useful life of the car.

 

So heres my dilemma, I have been having 5th Gear syncro issues since last August.
After 50mph shifting into 5th I get a light grinding noise but shifts into gear with no problem, it has become more of an issue as miles go by.

I needed a new clutch after 13,000 miles
Called dealership to see if they would cover the clutch and they said no. I asked if installing an after market clutch would in anyway shape or form void my transmission warranty (just to be safe). The answer was "NO" I also told them about the 5th gear problem and that I would be back after aftermarket clutch was install and broken in.

I made an appointment last week and had one of their techs drive the car tuesday. They deff. felt the problem.

Now here comes the part that I need suggestions on.

Manager from Ray Laks service dept calls me back and says they spoke to their District Manager and they will tear the tranny down and check for defects but if there is any indication of "abuse" It wont be covered and I'll have to pay for the labor if i dont decide to get it fixed at cost to me.
The manager says to me "seeing that the clutch was replaced at such low mileage, we have to say its abuse related; this is Mitsubishi's policy" My response was "its a ****ing an Evo dude, wtf do you mean by abuse? What happend to 10 year/100,000 mile drivetrain warranty?" No response was made by this guy.

The Evo
06 Evo 9 with some mods, nothing major to void drivetrain warranty or even affect it (not listing mods at this time)

Replaced stock clutch with Exedy triple HD

Should I take it in and risk them saying its abuse, I would be taking them to court at this point for a long battle

Seeing money is not what i have at this point in time I would really not like having to spend any. I honestly think that there is a defect in the gearing not caused by my daily driven "abuse"

Suggestions are appreciated

 

Seriously, why did you need a tripple plate clutch if you have only minor mods and you aren't driving the car hard?

Also, if you don't have lots of money to do the repair work yourself if they won't cover it under warranty then good luck getting a decent lawyer.

Suck up your loss and realize that modifying a car usually means that you are no longer entitled to the warranty that the car came with that covered it for XXX horsepower and XXX torque to be driven on the street in a humane manner while observing the posted speed limits at all times.

Similar scenario: If your tires have an average treadlife of 20,000 miles and you only get 10,000 miles out of them because of hard driving and you try to get the shop to give you new ones they're probably going to ask how fast you drove, how hard were you cornering, did you ever do burnouts, etc. In the end, they'll write it off as abuse and not give you a dime because we all know that you're just trying to pull the wool over the sheep's eyes.

It's a business, and you don't know how to play the game.


Not trying to flame you, I'm just trying to put things in perspective.

 

I have a 2003 GSR, 42,000 miles, using exedy twin plate, autocross regularly, and have absolutely ZERO (READ ZERO) grinds or any problems with shifting. How is this so? I never use OEM fluid, and I actually this is my 10th manual transmission car (i.e. I know how to drive). I always rev match, and I don't ride the clutch.

 

Exedy triple disc was cheaper than stock from dealer (got a great deal anyways) plus I plan on doing bigger mods in the future...I dont want to change the clutch twice. The car was unmodded when this problem occured. Thats my argument.