...at least gas mileage will be improved with the LS1

 

Who cares? Its his car and his money. I wouldn't be bothered if he put a freggen Honda motor in his Evo.

To the owner of the LS1 Evo.. good job, all that matters is your own personal satisfaction.

 

Listen, such a statement is in itself closed minded. Nobody knows if this thing will even get out of it's own way. We are all well aware of you opinion of the LS motors, you have made that abundantly clear over and over. You are entitled to your opinion but the truth of the matter is that most on these forums are more concerned with the overall balance of a car than the brute force mentality. Is this the topic of this thread such a car? No, it simply is not. It is a freak just like the title states not the next best thing since sliced bread. Will this car hold together under daily driving conditions? Probably not, just as most Captain Insano swaps do not.

 

And that would be due to the gearing my friend

 

How's that? Precisely how is my view closed-minded?

Obviously, the people doing this swap have plenty of time, money, and resources, so I'm sure they'll put the work into making the car hook and perform like it should. There's no reason to believe they're going to throw some 235s on there and call it a day - why bother with the Procharger then?

Overall balance? If we are to believe the only reliable information we have on this car, it will retain the AWD, and if so, the balance will hardly be affected. The LS1 is not a heavy motor and won't add much weight at all to the front as compared to the 4G. People here are acting like the motor itself literally destroys the handling of the car As I said before, the "American cars can't handle" stereotype is bad enough, but the "American engines can't handle" is utterly ridiculous.

An LSx swap is nothing new. If the people behind this swap can make their manufacturing and fabrication reliable, there's no reason the car won't hold up.

Comments like this I simply cannot understand in lieu of the car supposedly staying AWD. You act like I'm a troll because I am both a domestic and an Evo enthusiast, and I'm offering up a different viewpoint and arguing against what I see as misinformation. Ironically enough, I see a much more open-minded approach on the domestic boards I frequent. Many people here have made it quite clear that they only respect one single platform, one single car, and only one engine. Any deviation from that is clearly inferior, and anyone who holds alternate views simply isn't welcome here I am getting quite tired indeed of that viewpoint.

On a lighter note, think Mitsu will uphold the warranty on that thing?

 

One thing you forgot to mention.
The LS1 has WAY more aftermarket support than the 4G63.
(ducking)

 

There is simply no way in hell this car will be AWD. There is no AWD transmission that fits the LS1 motor. Sorry, its just not possible, unless they engineer a one off transmission specifically for this car, which doesn't seem very feasible. This car, as unique as it may seem, is nothing more than a V8 burnout machine, no different than a mustang, vette, f-body, etc. If you or anyone else have any suggestions on how someone would make a AWD LS1 transmission, I'm all ears. There are some very large (and heavy) GM SUV & truck transmissions that may work, but I doubt they will fit because the front axles will not line up to the hubs (the transmission will be way too far back).

 

Please calm yourself as you have been warned once already about your tone in this thread.

You just passive aggressively stated that you wouldn't expect anyone on these forums to undertake a swap like this and said that those doubting the absolute success of this swap are close minded and uneducated. This statement alone illustrates your refusal to accept anyone else's opinion. Hence why this statement is close minded.

Do you really want to know the most logical reason behind these individuals doing this swap? Because an LS motor is much easier to come by than a 4g63 in their region of the world. Someone probably popped the engine in this car and sold it off really cheap. The shop undertaking the project more than likely had a LS motor and a Procharger sitting around.

I have a friend who I did a complete build for on his evo last year. His plan was to take the car back to the middle east after school was over here in the states. After going back last winter and realizing the limited support for the car over there he decided to sell it. You know what he almost purchased to take back? A RX-7 with LS1 swap. His only reasoning for this was because the engines are pretty much readily available over there.

As far as this car coming out with an all wheel drive system it's a bit difficult for me to visualize. The tranny used in this swap alone will take up a considerable amount of room in what has already got to be a crowded drive train. I've never seen a gm transfer case compact enough to fit this specialized application.

I am sooo sick of hearing people put up the whole "I can't believe people say American cars can't handle." rally call. There's a reason this is a common belief, you know why? Because American auto manufactures go about building performance vehicles like steroid injected bulls in a China cabinet. If something fails just make it bigger right? We are a good 15-20 years behind the global automotive industry. We are playing one heck of a game of catch up but it is just that, catching up to what is par. Let us not forget that GM's "king of the hill" to date, the zr1, was built by Lotus.

You speak of an open minded domestic crowd. I've worked for this crowd and they are anything but. Do I have respect for domestic cars? Yes, of course. Most evo enthusiasts do as this is a thinking man's car when you look at every aspect of it. You just can't come in preaching of the global superiority of the ls engine and expect everyone great you with all smiles. Different strokes for different folks ya know. Some auto enthusiasts happen to appreciate more of a finesse approach to the design of the cars. Others, not so much.

Two very different ways of going about the same thing. How about we leave it at that instead of accusing people of being closed minded when we don't agree with your exact view point whatever it may be

 

I could be wrong but I believe holden makes an awd monaro which would support the ls1 engine.

 

Now see, that's a nice addition to this thread Do tell us more of this awd Holden.

 

Imagine the front to rear weight balance now.

 

This may be the most ignorant comments I have ever seen on this forum

 

this was mentioned earlier... i made some posts about the weight factors. assuming that since they mounted the motor lontitudinally they can push it back more the weight distro could actually improve... especially if you consider also that you need to take away the ac and condensor.

 

You are absolutely correct! In fact, holden has been doing AMAZING things with AWD transmissions that bolt right up to the LS1. Here is an interesting article that goes over the details of what they have developed:

http://www.hrt433.com/viewarticle.ph...292668ea28d3a5...

I still don't know how much these transmissions weigh, or even how much one would cost, but if one of these things could be fitted onto an LS1 evo, things would definitely be interesting to say the least (can you say GT-R killer?)....however the price of getting the entire system and the supporting electronics might be prohibitive (could cost 20k or more).

 

once you make it awd with that engine it'll become tankier andmore hacked than an s4 or even an s6 or s8...

i think they should take this car... put like 255 in front and put 305s in back with only half of an apr kit hahahaha