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The Freak Evo from SAUDI ARABIA (caution LS1 Inside )

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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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Why do you have to tub it? There is no reason to do that. All they have to do is put some wider and stickier tires to get some traction and they don't have to be slicks.
He can't keep the tires underneath it as is and he hasn't even hooked up the super charger yet. This is a rear wheel drive car, not all wheel drive. Traction will be an issue PERIOD!! A tire can only be so sticky. It will help, but once the super charger is hooked up a street tire will be a problem unless you "baby" it. Doesn't look like "babying" it is what this car is for.
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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they probably used the same chevy tranny that is used on <9 second dsm drag cars. There was a video of the guy who rotated the 4g63 to a longitudinal position in his eclipse to mount it to the rwd chewy tranny. Still, I'd probably rather just have a rwd conversion done on an evo than all this craziness.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by s2krn
He can't keep the tires underneath it as is and he hasn't even hooked up the super charger yet. This is a rear wheel drive car, not all wheel drive. Traction will be an issue PERIOD!! A tire can only be so sticky. It will help, but once the super charger is hooked up a street tire will be a problem unless you "baby" it. Doesn't look like "babying" it is what this car is for.
Accord to the OP, they are trying to make this an AWD car (which probably won't happen). Even if it was AWD, I think it would have traction problems with the LS1's ridiculous low end torque.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 72Tornado

You're delusional if you truly believe a 350hp V8 would not be able to take out a 286hp I4 in the exact same car, on a road course or at the strip. The LSx motors are surprisingly light - it's not like they weight 600lbs more than the 4G, for God's sake. An LS1 F-bod will already easily run as fast or faster than Evo from a stop - from a roll it just gets ugly. If you put that same motor in a lighter car...well, it's no mental feat to see where this is going.

Don't forget you'll get improved petrol mileage with the LS1 as well

It's bad enough that people hold the entirely false "American cars can't handle" stereotype. It's worse still that the apparently prevailing view is that an American engine in any car will instantly render that car useless on a road course as well

Oh, and would someone mind educating me on exactly how much the 4g weighs?
Ive seen stock Evos roast camaros, firebirds, even 06 GTOs. And thats with a major Horsepower mismatch (the LS2 in the GTO is 400hp)

Do you honestly believe that a 500hp LS1 Evo would beat a 500 hp 4G63 AWD Evo? I couldn't find the weight of the 4G63 either, but an inline four surely weighs significantly less than an LS1. Point is, Mitsubishi engineers designed these cars with the 4G63 in mind and built the car around it.


A Question for the owners of the car:

Has this car been taken to the track yet? I would love to see some timeslips (assuming you can get traction!)

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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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why does everyone get like this on this forum??? This guy did the work to this car like this and I think its cool as hell, who cares about the traction, this car is unique and thats cool. Also this guy obviously had the money to do this to the car and if he cared so much like most of the guys here do about the 4g63 he would have done it, but instead he wanted a different car not what everone else is doing. So I give this guy props for doing this and for those that knock it, well....... who cares what you think.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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first time posting on this.

all i have to say is why? go buy a vette if you want a v8.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JJsEvo8
Do you honestly believe that a 500hp LS1 Evo would beat a 500 hp 4G63 AWD Evo? I couldn't find the weight of the 4G63 either, but an inline four surely weighs significantly less than an LS1. Point is, Mitsubishi engineers designed these cars with the 4G63 in mind and built the car around it.
Maybe, if it has significantly more power under the curve. Keep in mind that when comparing engine weights w/ the 4g, you'd have to add the weight of the turbo and accessories as well.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 72Tornado


It's bad enough that people hold the entirely false "American cars can't handle" stereotype. It's worse still that the apparently prevailing view is that an American engine in any car will instantly render that car useless on a road course as well
Psh. Don't you know that their all seasons and high revving i4s are god's gifts to racing. I mean, surely american cars can't handle, they're just so domestic and so heavy! And of course, my buddy's buddy read somewhere on some forum that domestic cars always break down withing 3 years, whereas Mitsu's and other imports' quality last at least 10!
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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Keep on topic in here as this could be a great thread if people could just accept this for what it is and as the title even stated, a "Freak" car.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by VRamirez2004
hmm pretty cool Idea but it adds more weight to the already front heavy Evo.

Looks like it has more room to put a bigger engine in it. I would put a ls7 and supercharge that engine. I still wouldnt do it to my car though, I love the 4G63engine.

I think it would be better RWD because at higher speeds the AWD system starts slowing it down.
weight distro?
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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OK Heres the video (very obvious that its RWD):

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/5...53002f0b71.htm

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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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i love the sound but i think the balance of the car nad overall weight are compromised :\
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ill_take_one


FYI,

After a quick search for engine weights, the difference between the 4G63 and LSI is less than 100lbs. Also, that's not including the turbo or intercooler for that matter so the difference in weights is negligible. Someone will prove me if I'm wrong here please.

Gotta love the sound of a cammed ls1...


Anyone reading this?
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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i think this is cool as hell. i would never do it personally but i respect it. i would love to give that car a drive.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ill_take_one
Anyone reading this?
Nope. It's easier to not read the posts and just skip to the end. People aren't realizing that the LS1 is an aluminum motor... the 4G63 is an iron block. Which is heavier, aluminum or iron?

That's why a 2.0 liter iron block is only a little lighter than a 5.7 liter aluminum block. FYI, a 5.7 liter LS1 engine is 200 lbs lighter than a 3.6 liter BMW M3 (S52) engine.
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